Newbie Qs: Bought Hobart CyberTig II 200A welder

Sep 20, 2005 37 Replies

I found a few posts about your purchase of Hobart cybertig 300 etc. Someone mentioned jumpering A and B sockets to arc weld, but I have not found a description of the foot pedal schematic.

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If worse comes to worse I'll go out and measure the values on my foot pedal. I got lucky at the auction where I got mine and noticed the pedal for it in another guys lot. I managed to buy it from him for some pittance.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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Thanks Wayne. Let me wait until I actually get the welder (tomorrow evening, if all goes well), make sure that it powers up, etc.

The welder includes two very thick binders with "paperwork", which just might include the foot pedal schematic, who knows.

So, for now, I have just one question. What foot pedal connectors to short (jump) to power up the welder? A and B?

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Traditionally A and B are the contactor control. C, D, and E are the connectors for the potentiometer (high, ground, low)

Yep.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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Hummmm need any pneumatic air cylinders (up to 4x36)? 2 Boyer Shultz Surface grinders (need bearings/rebuild) ,14" Logan lathe needing a compound, aprox 3000 various V and timing belts (Gates mostly) NOS but 5-7 yrs old,

2000lbs of new but rusty Browning and Martin pulley bushings still in the boxes, 800 lbs of surface mount bearing arbors, NOS, up to 4" shaft size, 100+/- automatic grease pots with grease
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NOS, electro chemical drive, (cores are supposed to be worth $10 each, most still are powered)

Geeze....C faced 5 hp Allis Chalmers 3ph electric motors? NOS Lots of motors..lots and lots PLCs?

Thompson Lineal bearings? (shafting got scrapped...sigh)...NOS

Ill snap pictures over the weekend of the Stuff Piles & Racks

Of course Ill include the Tweco #5 you were promised. And the Plasma welding torch and Thermodynamics gas console that came with the Hobart. Unless you dont want the gas/Plasma console ...WA-1.. IRRC TD sent me the manual, but the manual only covers single gas, mine has flow meters for 2. Hummmm maybe I need to keep that for the Nitrogen/CO2 plasma cutter? Got a pair of spare regulators for N2 and Co2 as a swap?

Ive got crates full of NOS sprockets, pulleys, torque clutches, 40 or so Horton Air Clutches and air brakes....NOS Need a spindle cooler? 45KVA 3ph transformers?

Damned shame you cant come out for a couple days and dig through the Gordon Boxes. Ive never been to the bottom of at least 3 of them..all filled with pulleys, bushings, etc etc etc etc

Heated glue line hoses? NOS Conveyor belting for bench tops..... Corner mounted heavy duty bench tops.... Electric motor mounting dovetail bases with micrometer tensioning screws?

Injecton mould heater cartridges? NOS... Couple bushell baskets full, mostly Big Chief....

Photo Electric and Hall Effect sensors..NOS

I think its time you took a road trip...

Id love to have my back yard, back.

Way cool. Some of the stuff, including that welder, is stored out on a ranch, so Id need a day or two notice to get an a- frame truck or hydocrane.

I live in Taft, California, west-s/w of Bakersfield.

Ive got shitloads of Stuff, including screw machine bar stock in various flavors, mostly 10' bars, up to .625. A fair amount in 303/

304/316

Hummmm...Im still looking for a small hit & miss project engine to run the 1897 Anderson hacksaw......and the pig bbq.

Poppata poppa ta poppa ta poppata.....

Old oilfield horizontal or vertical, however big I can get....

Got a line on a pair of older but still decent Bridgeport mills..about $900 each.

Pexto 52" stomp shear converted to hydraulic? Weld the pedal back on and its a manual again. With back gauge. $800 as is, 16 ga. DiAcro 6" electric notcher? $1400

Sigh...Ive got way too much Stuff.......and Im picking up a bunch of sheet metal working Stuff in the next few weeks, 36" DiAcro finger brakes....etc etc. One for me..the other will be sold.

Ill need a small 18" -24" shear... and maybe same sized roller.... tig rod, Welding wire...I can always use. maybe some 6010 x 1/8"?

And of course..anything that goes bang out one end.

I suspect we can fill the trailer.....

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Without the pot connections, it will have no power. When I made my breadboard unit, I used a 5k ohm pot and it gave me full range.

I didnt use any of the caps. In fact..if you look at the backside of the plug connector on the panel..yu may find them already in place.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Gunner, if so... if I can ask you for a favor.... What is resistance between D and F and F and K that you used? If one or two of them is variable, what was your range?

thanks

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Must be different from mine. On mine there's a switch to turn the pot on the foot pedal on and off. I all need to do is throw that to bypass the pot.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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Hmm. I could use one of the right size for a hydraulic downfeed on my bandsaw. I've got a good number of air cylinders around here but unfortunately none are close to the right size.

Pulley bushings are a common need around here.

Don't even have a clue what that is. :-)

5HP motors are a occasional need but not a biggie.

No real need at the moment. I've got some linear bearings and rails around though it's not the round style.

Flow meters won't be needed for the plasma cutter. Just regulators which unfortunately I didn't get with mine. I've got some oxygen regulators spare which I might send if you can convert them.

I've got a pretty large selection of large pulleys but smaller sizes are scarce. Air clutches and brakes might or might not be useful.

Unfortunately I can't get away that long. He'll be coming alone if he comes (I just bought a car so I've got to see how the money situation is after we get through with that). At the very least it may be next month before it happens.

Conveyor belting is very handy stuff for many things.

Not a big need.

No use.

Not something I use very often.

Ok. No problem there.

I'm sure he can find you. He's from that area.

Some could be useful though I've already got over 75,000 lbs of stock I've bought in the last year.

You'll have to talk to my driver about that. Actually I've got to build the fuel tank for his soon.

Unfortunately I've not even got the parts of one laying around anymore. I did have one in rough shape but the owner decided he wanted it back after all.

My Abene does me pretty well and I just don't have room for more machines in the shop.

Shear is a big want for sure. The problem is that 16ga is a little light. 14ga would be way preferable and 10ga would bring on the drool factor (in fact a 8' 10ga shear with the right price might be enough to bring me out there).

By notcher I assume you mean corner notcher. That would be nice but it's a little rich for me at the moment (I've spent way to much money this year what with the plasma, steel, and now a car).

Hmm. That sounds nice if the capacity is big enough.

Not got much spare rod laying around unfortunately.

Let's see what I've got in storage now. There's a 20" shaper that needs a new clutch on the drive, a Shop Task with treadmill motor conversion and a stepper drive for the lead screw, hmm. Oh yeah I've got a really nice profile grinder out there I need to get rid of. I'll have to see if I can find the pics I took of it. I've also got a couple of rather large hydraulic power units. Both where used to test aircraft in WWII. One has been converted to a sort of porta power setup (if you've got a crane to move the cylinder). It has a variable displacement pump and large 3phase motor drive. The other is smaller and I've never checked it out. Lots more stuff but I'll have to do a little thinking for it.

:-)

Unfortunately I'm short in that area right now myself. :-)

I have no doubt of that.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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Hummmm....whats the label?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Follow the link. They are automatic grease "pumps". You screw them into where a zerk is supposed to be, unscrew the cover, set the dip switches for how often you want a shot(s) of grease, and forget about it until you see the body is empty. About 4" in diameter, about 4" tall. Various types of grease. Work pretty well on ag and oil field equipment. Maint guys love em.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Figure out what you need and Ill see how close I can come. Ive got little tiny Bimbas with a 1/2" stroke and Festos that travel out to

36", and double acting slides (Festo) and a s*it load in between.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Oh I know about the grease pots. There have been a few on pump jacks around here but most have given up on them.

I was talking the electro chemical drive. That sounds like the wax motors they use on the Maytag washing machines.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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Remote current control on/off I believe.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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Ok. I'll have to measure the one that's on there.

Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX

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I have one Wayne - it is in the shop naturally - I'll try to take a look as I (it might not have name) snag some of the emergency items from the shop and our other building - getting ready for

3 or 4 days of heavy rain and wind from this storm running up Hwy 59 or even I35. I'm 100 miles or less from the Houston Airport...

Have to secure power gen. 10/12 ga. power cables to route power in the house. Chain saws in local storage and gas for the tractor stored close. Check for loose ends...

Wife is baking a cake (She quoted the French Queen - let them eat cake... I smiled naturally). Bagging ice, storing water. and getting rag towels ready for sopping up a broken window or leaky door. Have 4 4x8 3/4" I used to wheel in my grinders to board up something if it goes wild in a tree fall or such. Semi prepared - Charging everything that needed it. Already stocked in food and drinking water.

Such is life - move from Earthquakes to massive windy rainstorms.

Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

Wayne Cook wrote:

Oh..the grease pots use a chemical element that makes nitrogen IRRC and thats what pressures up the grease. No moving parts inside the pot.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

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