AMA now scaming?

What BullshT! Why don't you READ (I know, you don't know how) the letter that comes with it. It didn't cost the AMA a f%^$ng cent! keep it, throw it away, send it back, use it for skeet practice. Kwicherbellyakin if you are not going to try to find out what it is about. Buncha freeking ijits

Dr1 wrote:

The AMA spent NADA DINERO on this program. The cost, and risk, is borne by the company doing the mass mailing. What's the next imaginary wrong you are going to accuse the AMA of doing?

It's a stupid point. AMA paid nothing for it.

Wrong. The AMA did not sell it's membership list to the mass mailer. And if you don't want such things, send them an email asking to be taken off the list. It's not a big deal.

Finally, someone else with a realistic perspective on this situation :-)

It's funny, but only a handful of our club members, out of over 200, have received it. I haven't, and only know of TWO who have. I don't know if they're just shotgunning them out to a few to guage the reaction, or what.

Could of fooled me. You keep coming back to defend this bunk, makes me wonder.

Well, you can think that's it peachy keen for AMA to become a junk mailer, that's fine. You can think that's it's okay for them to use marketing tactics, and it's our job to think our way around them, that's fine. So what if they send more. One a month? Still fine? What if the magazinge starts filling up with it as well? Still fine? What if our dues notice comes with a thousand little tricks and gimmicks to try to get us to write a larger check, still fine? What if it were a computer CD rather than a DVD, and it was full of spyware and adware, still fine? After all if we don't have anti-spyware software it's our fault correct? Where would YOU draw the line geniuses? Maybe a bit of backlash and indignation would convince the AMA not the make this a habit that will lead who knows where? Lots of organizations make money without these tactics you know.

Spammers send millions of emails daily to supplement their incomes, doesn't make it right. I know they have to pay for that palace they call a headquarters, but there are respectable ways of making money, like that merchandise catalog. You see something you like, you buy it, THEN they send it. They did this because DVD's are dirt cheap in mass quantities, and they just want to fool enough people to make a buck. FOOL ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MAKE A BUCK. That's wrong, no matter how insignificant you think this is.

This is easy......my routine response to mass mailings.......

Take the return postage paid business envalope and stuff it with the heaviest wad of material you can find that won't spit the envalope paper (and nothing with your name on it) and mail it back to them. I find that the inserts from other company's mass mailings works great. They then have to pay on the prepaid envalope, and when it is overweight, they have to send someone down to the Post Office to cover the postage due fees. Just think if everyone who is a victum of these mass mailing schemes did that.........

Or not.

Yes, I can think. I think some of you are way too worked up about such a petty thing. The AMA is trying to raise money to offset costs. Your strawman scenarios are pathetic.

Agenda.

Please do.

As posted on the amadist5 group on yahoo on 2/25/05

"Many of you by now may have received a DVD in the mail from AMA. Their is supposed to be a letter with it. I personally have not received one yet, so I don't know what is in the package.

The letter states that the CD is for sale at $9. However, if you don't want it, you can return it via the included postage pre-paid mailer. It also states in the letter that you don't even have to return it, for the very reasons that you state.

This is a project that the AMA EC had approved right before I came on board. There was a test mailing of 50,000 pieces, and it received very high marks. Of course, some people are very offended in receiving this "junk" mail, and are very vocal about it. That will happen. If that person will contact AMA and let HQ know, their membership will be coded so that they will not receive any other mailings like this in the future.

However, many seem to really like the offer. This does not cost AMA anything. AMA makes a profit from it, which directly goes into the general fund to help pay for things like insurance cost and such. In this way, it will help keep membership dues down.

The key points are:

Personally, I think it is OK. I don't jump up and down when I get a little "junk mail" in my mailbox. If I did, I would be jumping a lot!! Those that don't like it can just return it or throw it away. Those that want it, can buy it. Those that are offended can contact AMA and opt out of any future mailings.

This was AMA's first attempt at this kind of thing, so some opposition to it is normal and expected.

I hope this helps explain the project."

Now just do as you are instructed, and leave dog and pony show at home.

Robert

Bruth wrote:

If it was mailed to you, it is now yours. That is the law. I had the NRA do the same thing quite a few years ago JUST before I didnt renew my membership. I supported the hell outta the NRA up till they told me I was supposed to boycott a certain program about gun control. Never sent em another dime.

I havent either but I havent checked the mail yet today. If I happen to get one, I will probably mail it back to them on their dime along with a not so nice note.

That has always been my fave tactic. Its amazing how much crap you can stick into that envelope and still seal it!

Thank You, That is exactly my point. AMA up till now has represented itself as a quality organization to promote, educate and protect the rights of those in the hobby. Upstanding organization don't scam their members like this. Does anyone know if any of these scam packages were sent to young junior members? How about elderly members that are easily fooled by these types of scams? Do some of you really think that only drooling idiots fall for this kind of thing? These scams are targeted towards the very young,very old and trusting guilable souls that should not be prayed upon by any respectable organization that they belong to. It is truly sad, after all the years AMA has spent building up their reputation and trust with the membership, that the leadership has now decided to pray on that loyality by pulling this kind of scam. This is not the AMA organization I first joined as a kid in the late 1960's nor is it an organization I will be promoting to others if this is the trend they intend to follow. I truly feel sorry for those who have posted in this thread that seem to think everyone is out to screw everyone else and therefore there is no standards. Yes Virgina, there are people and organizations in this world that do live up to a higher standard and AMA was one of them. It is a shame that some people seem to have never known such people or places in their life.

Bob Ruth

"FrankC29" wrote in news:QgoVd.9605$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

That kind of clinches it, there's a few people here who just have to piss and moan about everything.

Those that cannot see what is wrong with this picture are just plain idiots. Not all marketing ideas are good ones, in fact very few are.

In case it isn't obvious (i.e. you ARE an idiot), their response is to sweep the disagreers under the rug to skew results so they can convince themselves that it was a good idea.