Glow or gas ?

Aug 19, 2003 14 Replies

I am at my second flying season and I own a Goldberg Tiger 60 with an OS .61FX and I also have a House of balsa Extra 300 with an OS .46FX. I fly almost every day and I really love it. I am starting to look for my next plane and I would like a 1/4 scale. Since I fly quite a lot I spend a fair amount of money on glow fuel. I am wondering if I should go with a gasser. My choices would be a Hangar 9 Edge 540 with a Moki 180 or a Great Planes Extra 300S (Patty Wagstaff ) with a gas engine. I sure would appreciate any advise from experienced modelers.



Thanks



Andre Gagnon


Salut Sylvain,

Je suis de Val d'Or en Abitibi. J'ai bien reçu tes photos et je suis intéressé. Qu'entends-tu par semi ARF ?

Merci pour ta réponse.

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Gas planes are usually larger. They are also cheaper to run, cleaner, more user friendly, and more reliable. Dr.1 Driver "There's a Hun in the sun!"

I agree with everything Dr.1 Driver has said. The New Zenoah G-26 is perhaps the best new engine to try gas power with! Couple it with a 1/4-scale Cub and you're in gas engine heaven! GY

ok......here is the deal. If you are gonna get something in the 25% range then definitely go with gas BUT only certain engines will perform with enough power and not too much weight. First off, I suppose the Wagstaff Extra is pretty nice but I think my money would be into a Dave Patrick Edge

540 ARF. It is very difficult to get a decently low wing loading with a quarter scale anyway so you need to think "light" wherever you can. I don't know the weight, but Dave Patrick is normally known for light weight designs. Now that we have the plane, or whatever you choose, the best gas engine IMHO is the Desert Aircraft 50cc, especially if money is no object but still, they are competitively priced. If not, then go with a ZDZ50 or ZDZ40 (NOT the sportsman) but the 50 is probably not heavier than the 40 by much if any, you will have to weigh that out. Id go 50, the more power the better.

that's my opinion.......now you can go out and buy that Zenoah or Fuji brick gutless engine despite what I say .....it always happens LOL

good luck

Brad L.

Yea, but a decent loading for a 1/4 scale could be upwards of 30.

That's the big key, how much does he have to spend? Nothing wrong with a Fuji, Zenoah, or Quadra...MUCH lower price, and lower power/higher weight. So, you design and build accordingly.

Given enough power, you can make a brick fly...so, you spend mega bucks for the DA's and ZDZ's, I'll build light and stick with ol' reliable; Zenoah. Dr.1 Driver "There's a Hun in the sun!"

Yea, your car will smell like gas inside forever more!

Let me first thank you all for your answers!

So if I understand you guys, money is the big issue. So a good powerfull and light gas engine is better than a glow engine. I bet ya that the way I spend fuel I would pay a gas engine within a couple of seasons. The other thing I am starting to realize is that with big planes we need fuel pumps, more high-tork servos and I read somewhere that you need to have big expensive radios to program parallel aileron servos that don't have the same reaction to compensate balancing or somethine like that. I did not read the whole article. Anyways I realize that when going to big birds, it's not only an engine concern. I still want to make the move but I need to learn more about it. With all the knowledge on this newsgroup, it will be fast !

Thanks to all of you

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Glow fuel odors are MUCH less, shall we say, aromatic?

Ande, Do a lot more checking around. I have flown 1/4 scale for years(giant Stinger with a G-62) and 1/4 scale SE-5. I use standard 42 oz servos with plastic gears all around..have only had to replace the rudder servo on the Stinger once. Metal gears and digital servos have their place. Think of your flying style..If

3D is your thing, it cost more for servos and a radio. I fly the JR XP652. I do not use a redundant battery system. I do check and cycle my batteries regularly. My $.2 worth. Good Luck

RC NUT

Don't let the professional 'contest boys' throw you. Yes, you need higher torque servos but I have been perfectly happy with GWS and FMA servos which are very inexpensive. You don't need any more expensive radio than a trainer....if you don't want all the bells and whistles.

Big birds are more forgiving, easier to fly, and gas engines last forever and are cheap to operate. Yes, you will easily pay for the difference in the engine cost quickly. For example, a Zenoah G38 is as much or more power than a fuel hungry Moki 1.80, Saito 1.80, Super Tigre 3000, etc. The cost of that Moki or Saito isn't much less than the G38! If you REALLY want to have super easy starting and reliability, opt for one of the gas engines with C&H ignition from Brison, 3W, First Place Engines, ZDZ, Taurus, etc. etc.

Have Fun!

I forgot to add that the Hitec 605BB servos are great too!

What a deal! You got 20 cents worth, rather than the standard 2 cents. See what a great bunch of guys we have here?

I have 3 moki glow engines and would not part with them. They have been totally reliable, they are light weight for their power and they are very durable (one of mine has been in use for over 5 years) They are a bit thirsty but you can mix your own fuel WITHOUT nitro and the fuel cost is quite reasonable.

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