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For months ignorant CADCAM idiot Tom Brewer insisted that a roll back bar was just fine and all I needed was more training.
Why not compare the method that ignorant idiot Tom Brewer claimed was just fine and that I claimed was a total waste of time and money.
Here is a comparison of the old way vs the new way:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Tom Brewer makes mistake after mistake after mistake when it comes to CADCAM and he never learns from his mistakes. Don't be an ignorant idiot like Tom Brewer:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Jon Banquer San Diego, CA
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:55:00 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer

No Jon, what I said was that you are a beginner having beginner problems. I said for you to be specific and post samples/examples where you were having difficulty and some of the more experienced users would be willing to help you.
Tom
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For months ignorant CADCAM idiot Tom Brewer insisted that a roll back bar was just fine and all I needed was more training.
Why not compare the method that ignorant idiot Tom Brewer claimed was just fine and that I claimed was a total waste of time and money.
Here is a comparison of the old way vs the new way:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Tom Brewer makes mistake after mistake after mistake when it comes to CADCAM and he never learns from his mistakes. Don't be an ignorant idiot like Tom Brewer:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Jon Banquer San Diego, CA
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Ignorant:
Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned out poorly. .... Tom Brewer
Ignorant:
I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are what I want and/ or need.... Tom Brewer who cant follow his own advice. See above.
Ignorant:
Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for doing so.
Ignorant:
I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is in your mouth and your head is in your ass. Tom Brewer admitting what hes often like.
Ignorant:
Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.
Ignorant:
Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.
Ignorant:
Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to answer any questions that Vinny had on master modeling or skeletal modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done... now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.
Ignorant:
Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.
Ignorant:
Tom Brewers unable to comprehend whats on the cover of the SolidWorks Bible:
"Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."
Ignorant:
Someone who cant understand more than a simple I love it! or I hate it! type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.
Ignorant:
Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25 SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.
Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:
I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks.
FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously.
Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user interface problems:
The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better.
Conclusion:
Tom Brewer thinks hes a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Jon Banquer San Diego, CA
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jon_banquer = Ignorant
" I dropped out of high school to pursue my dream of making a lot of money and never went back" -Jon Banquer -
It shows......
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jon banquer = lunatic
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For months ignorant CADCAM idiot Tom Brewer insisted that a roll back bar was just fine and all I needed was more training.
Why not compare the method that ignorant idiot Tom Brewer claimed was just fine and that I claimed was a total waste of time and money.
Here is a comparison of the old way vs the new way:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Tom Brewer makes mistake after mistake after mistake when it comes to CADCAM and he never learns from his mistakes. Don't be an ignorant idiot like Tom Brewer:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Jon Banquer San Diego, CA
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jon_banquer wrote:

> Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet

jb, exactly What are staking games?

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Michael wrote:

staking games are what happens when you can't even copy & paste without screwing it up, no?

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For months ignorant CADCAM idiot Tom Brewer insisted that a roll back bar was just fine and all I needed was more training.
Why not compare the method that ignorant idiot Tom Brewer claimed was just fine and that I claimed was a total waste of time and money.
Here is a comparison of the old way vs the new way:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Tom Brewer makes mistake after mistake after mistake when it comes to CADCAM and he never learns from his mistakes. Don't be an ignorant idiot like Tom Brewer:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Jon Banquer San Diego, CA
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:04:21 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer

Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.

Please post where I made any such claim.
All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users are more than willing to help you.

A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.
How do you determine original design intent?
Is design intent no longer a concern?
With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?
How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?
And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?

Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?
[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005
[ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual -
[ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?
I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:
1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset
So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:
1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts,"
2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends."
3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction"
4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."
Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.
You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-

Tom
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:12:13 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer

Did you ever get and complete the myigetit SolidWorks video course?
[ From what I've seen of the free myigetit videos they do as well. I hope to finish the SolidProfessor videos I just purchased ( $600 Professional Package) in the next 2 weeks. When I do, I'll spend the $25 for the myigetit SolidWorks 2007 course ] -Jon Banquer- July 1, 2007
[ I'm trying to finish The SolidWorks Bible ]- Jon Banquer- Aug 8, 2007
[ SolidWorks has changed so much since I've been away from it and I feel like I'm really far behind. ]- Jon Banquer - Aug. 8, 2007
[ <to Jon Banquer> I prefer a rational discussion between people who really use the software. You prove on a regular basis that you can't be rational, and you have never said anything that makes me believe you have more than a passing familiarity with SolidWorks. ]-Matt Lombard- Author SolidWorks Bible
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:55:00 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer

Jon,
Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?
[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005
[ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual -
[ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?
I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:
1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset
So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:
1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts,"
2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends."
3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction"
4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."
Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.
You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:55:00 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer

Jon,
A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.
How do you determine original design intent?
Is design intent no longer a concern?
With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?
How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?
And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?
Tom
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And exactly what is the problem here ????
// Krister
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Krister_L wrote:

Mental illness.
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On 21 Juni, 05:01, "John R. Carroll"

Sorry ...should have known
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jonnies crazy jealousy towards Tom's skills versus his own severe limitations. Its not really a problem.....Its what makes this group so much fun. :)
jonnies just too nuts to comprehend. therein lies all the fun.
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For months ignorant CADCAM idiot Tom Brewer insisted that a roll back bar was just fine and all I needed was more training.
Why not compare the method that ignorant idiot Tom Brewer claimed was just fine and that I claimed was a total waste of time and money.
Here is a comparison of the old way vs the new way:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Tom Brewer makes mistake after mistake after mistake when it comes to CADCAM and he never learns from his mistakes. Don't be an ignorant idiot like Tom Brewer:
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/?page_id "
Jon Banquer San Diego, CA
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Insignificant. Wholly and totally insignificant. I told you to quit whacking off before you addled yourself. Next time maybe you'll listen.
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