Automotive "try-out", "jiggler keys"...?

I was wondering if it would be worth the expense of having a set of
automotive try-out or jiggler keys in my tool kit?
(Just finished a locksmithing course and money is scarce).
Do they actually work?
Thanks in advance.
Reply to
kpwhite
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overall? save your money.. UNLESS you are in an area of a LOT of 10 cut Ford.. (pre 96), then you want the ignition set.. Aero lock..impression the door-its a good lock to practice on..
otherwise, there are better things.. I do Chevys and Fords almost totally exclusively.. 6 cut GM, progress the door off the glove box lock or quickly pull the door panel, and get.. ignitions have to come out usually..
GM 10 cut? depends on the vehicle..some you yank the ignition lock out of the dash-code is there..
8 cut Ford? one of the determinator types works good ASSUMING the door lock is NOT got a stuck wafer, which most in my area do, then a progression chart helps complete the key.. OLD foreign cars.. key code is on a lock, OR you need to pull 2 sometimes and then progress the rest of the cuts.
CHrysler? I impression..
REALLY comes down to what area do YOU have in your neck of the woods, AND what do you want to get in to?? some car areas are VERY expensive.
--Shiva--
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me
are you a car dealer ? if not ? you would be better off working on your opening skills..
my2¢
Reply to
Key
I would not waste my money. I tried to make a home made set for six cut GM, but didn't have much luck with em. I did also get a set for Ford ten cut ignitions, have had some success with those.
Shorr answer is to learn the trade, not the tricks and gadgets.
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Stormin Mormon
I made my own try-out set for GM 6-cut.Only failed once because of a seized sidebar. (Engine compartment on a Fiero with the battery dead-Great Fun-) I think there are about 400-500 blanks I cut on the b15. I formatted it on the computer and used some half-steps. Think I still have the bitting list.
I don't think I ever finished the tryouts I started for ford 10-cut, but I use them quite a bit.
Technically(here we go), jigglers and try-outs are two different types of tools.
I have tried jigglers a few times-The ones that come with determinator-not much success.
Chryslers and older Hondas do impression well for me.
Later, goma.
Reply to
goma865
I got a call to remake a key to a early 90s Chrysler. Look in my catalog, and it was the double sided wafer. I can impression the old pin tumbler Chryslers no big problem. But not tried the wafer locks.
Reply to
Stormin Mormon
just as easy... think of it as a 10 cut Ford door lock, but BOTH sides at once.. I knife edge it, to see whats up.. after the door, trunk adds a cut, then ign for the last cut.. start with glove box IF its got one.. that way you are working your way out from tip
--Shiva--
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me
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they really impression easy. they make obvious marks. note; be real gental if you're impressioning the ignition. as damage can be easily done. a safer way is to impression the door and very gently adjust your cuts in the ignition while progressing the first cut that is required in the ignition. if you are having to make a trunk key on a 90 model ? there can bea tip cut to be added.
forget the above process on a 96+ model.
my2¢
Reply to
Key
Locksmithing is fully integrated today, so please leave the Jig keys alone, ok?
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Reply to
Bill Halle
According to the Foley Belsaw manual, you should be using a rotary pick on those jobs. In and out fast is the way to make the cash. Elmer McSwill
Reply to
lockee.keyee
.I once got a call for a Stratus. No keys. In February-A sizzling 15 degrees. I open the truck, stuck an inspection mirror in the lid, slipped in a blank and saw "What was up" Pak-a-Punch-Pow-pow-pow-pow-pow. Gently Imp the ig for the last two. New set of keys. Paid and gone in twenty minutes.
goma.
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goma865
got an early Contour..10 cut.. was 5 below.. car in middle of the parking lot-and they were trying to clean the snow off lot.. opened the door, popped the trunk lid, got lock out.. gave me 6 cuts.. tryout key set, FIRST key tried turned.. only ONE possibility of cuts.. done in 2 minutes, and the salesman ARGUED that i didnt make the keys.. it was 30 below chill factor AND I HURRIED...lol never did another one that fast since.
--Shiva--
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me
well, the Foley Belsaw manual is wrong... the home study I took many years back (locksmith institute) recommended to have a dealership r&r the lock. yea right :-)
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Key

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