I recently bought a used file cabinet sans key which I promptly carted to the local locksmith to have a key made. It takes a Taylor F21 which he didn't have but promised to order for 15 dollars plus 2 dollars per key. Several months and several calls later, he's still not gotten in the keys and I have finally quit asking. Is there another key that will fit this lock or should I take it to another locksmith to have the lock replaced?
CR
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Cherokee.Rose
Ah, he said it was rare and so he lied. Thanks for the info.
CR
K
Key
the smith that you took it to shouldn't charge you $15 to order something he should have to begin with. maybe if it was some special order thing but, this is not that rare. take it to another locksmith to get the key.
my2¢
K
Key
Ah, he said it was rare and so he lied. Thanks for the info.
CR
--------------- reply: might have been rare to him ? think about this. somewhere in any town, is the towns worst locksmith. same holds true for any profession...
g'day
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Roger Shoaf
I would get a second opinion.
Can you see any brand name on the lock?
Are there any small letters or numbers on the lock?
If you were to describe the shape of the lock might it be about 1/2" by 3/4" with rounded ends? Or is it round and about 1"in diameter?
R
Roger Shoaf
Also, I just checked and it does not appear that Taylor ever made a keyblank # F21.
M
me
exactly.. I am awaiting a snail mail address to send a man 2 Y149 keys, because no one near him stocks them.. it happens.
--Shiva--
S
Steve
If you can't find a blank without a lot of hassle look into changing out the whole lock or having it changed. No little piddly file cabinet lock is worth much effort unless it is some proprietary or semi-proprietary design that is hard to find a replacement for.
C
Cherokee.Rose
Yes, the lock definitely has, "Taylor F21," stamped on it. When I got it home, I found several newspaper clippings from the mid 80's tucked behind the drawers which helped to date it. Thanks again for all the advice.
CR
K
Key
but what does the keyblank have stamped on it, if anything ?
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Roger Shoaf
A small point of clarification, Taylor might have made the lock but the blank required for it is not an F21 that would be the code number. (An indirect reference to the blank and the way the blank needs to be cut in order for the lock to work.)
C
Cherokee.Rose
Taylor F21 is the only bit of info I have with which to find a key blank as the locksmith didn't share the keyblank number with me when he ordered it. I was hoping to find out here so I could look for one m'self.
CR
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Roger Shoaf
You never answered my question about the shape of the lock. Most filing cabinets have the push in type in several lengths. These are available at most locksmith shops if the keyblank is not readily available and they are reasonably cheap. Do you know the brand of the filing cabinet?
C
Cherokee.Rose
Oval push button lock with round insert which contains the keyhole. It measures 0.5" x 0.75" on the oval. Cabinet plate says,"Cole Steel."
CR
C
Cherokee.Rose
If the F21 code will tell what kind of key cuts need to be made then why would the locksmith have to determine those?
CR
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Roger Shoaf
You have a good cabinet. I suggest that if the next locksmith does not have a blank in stock that he can cut a key for your lock, then do this, remove the top drawer and look at the back of the lock with a flashlight. There should be one screw that goes through the back of the lock sideways across the 1/2" dimension. remove this screw and the lock will come out the front.
Sometimes it is necessary to depress the spring loaded tab in order to remove the lock.
Take this in to the locksmith and you should be able to obtain a replacement lock for $20 or less.
When I replace the lock on a file cabinet I usually take the time to spray some Teflon lube on the mechanism and the slides that support the drawers. With the top drawer out you can spray the lube at the top and let it dribble down a bit. Don't get crazy with spraying as too much will just end up as a puddle on the floor. Short bursts work just fine and allow you to judge the quantity better.
Good luck.
M
me
Cole file cabinet.. F21 code.. DOES SHOW a F21 code by Taylor, AND, DOES list the key Ilco 1141F blank
--Shiva--
K
Key
then good chance that the blank is an Ilco # 1003m
my2¢
K
Key
then its an Ilco # 1003m blank. very common blank...
K
Key
CR, he probably meant determine from looking up the code.
just bring your "F21 code to a locksmith and tell him its a Hudson/Cole file cabinet. your keyblank will be an Ilco # 1003m. he should be able to come up with the cuts by the code. sorry, can't give you the cuts on this open forum. sure you can understand....
g'luck
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