Transponders and Cadillacs

Oct 22, 2004 Last reply: 21 years ago 8 Replies

I just heard that two of the top stolen cars were current model Cadillac SUV's. Is there something that GM is doing particularly wrong with the transponders on these trucks or is it that the SUV's are just that in demand in South America. I'm not looking for a "how to" guide, just some general comments on GM's security compared to say the security on Lincoln Navigators or other competing products.



Stu



IMO- its the demand of whats wanted.. the Caddy SUV- status symbol.. so, its stolen.. who wants a cruddy old Lincoln, a dime a dozen.. gotta have something NEW and EXCITING!!! --Shiva--

My guess is, he means "how are they being stolen if they have transponder keys?"

Answer... Probably by tow truck.

ship em overseas, they give a rip about keys, have em made, no titles needed-they do NOT care where it came from, they just got a rich mans toy. --Shiva--

I think that reading between the lines, Shiva is suggesting that Cadillac's security is comparable to everyone else, but its desirability to thieves is what is putting the car high on the list.

The car has three seperate security systems -- an alarm, Onstar, and an immobiliser.

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This article states that the transponder is being defeated and the car is being driven away:

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Stu

No it doesn't say anything of the sort.

sorry to tell you this but caddy for some unknown only to them reson does not put immobilisers in the #1 stolen car the escalad

Darn if you ain't right! Up until at least 2003, (don't have the 2004 books) they were still using the MRD lock (Passlock 1). It's still an "anti-theft" lock though, but only against _forced_ bypass.

The part of the article that I was quoting from was as follows:

[Begin Block Quote] "Stolen Escalades are sometimes found resting on blocks without their wheels," said Kim Hazelbaker, senior vice president of the insurance institute's Highway Loss Data Institute.

Hazelbaker said the Escalade EXT has a standard anti-theft ignition immobilizer, which prevents the vehicle from being started without the right key, but it may not be as effective as newer systems. General Motors Corp. spokeswoman Kelly Wysocki confirmed that the Pass-lock system, which is on all current Escalades as well as 2005 models, is aging and said GM is considering a change soon. "

[End Block Quote]

In my mind, the article implies that the Escalade has something more than a hardened steal steering column. An immobilizer (in my mind) means an electronic device (other than an ignition lock) which stops a car from starting. Pass-lock is such a device. The article states that the system is aged and not as effective as new systems. The article also states that the car was found on blocks suffering from what sounds like a light strip. To me, if you add those up it is saying the vehicles are being driven to the location, not towed there. I'm certainly mindful of the post which says that the car has no transponder system. I don't know whether the article is correct (I tend to doubt it given the response), but I think the author is saying that the car is being driven away without the keys. Again, the author might be wrong, but that is what I think the article says.

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