On the flipside, Key: You may want to try using a newsreader that can
display discussions as threads; that context makes the
who-is-being-replied-to much more self-evident.
(I agree it's good practice to include some reference in the body of the
note, but it isn't necessary in this case -- if it isn't a reply to you,
just ignore it.)
I prefer to bottom post under the quote I am responding to.
some choose to top post over over everything. (like you have
it helps make it easier to know more of what one is
I use outlook too and have it set to quote the previous post. I also prefer
to reply under the quoted text. Problem is Outlook puts it at the bottom,
under my sig file. I haven't figured out how to change that - other than
copy and pasting it to the top manually.
Is there a setting I'm overlooking that will automatically put the quote at
the top of the message?
Properly attributing, citing, trimming, and contextualizing is the
Style in Newsgroup Postings
Correct. You need to disable autosig.
Outlook OL, the MS Office MAPI client, is not Outlook Express, OE, the
newsreader and mailagent.
Without a 3rd party application like OE QuoteFix, OE's autosig doesn't
work right. In order to cite, trim and contextualize most conveniently,
there should be no misplaced autosig, so that feature should be turned
off. Your cursor should start at the top which is where you start down
from for your trimming. Anything cited which is encountered on the way
down which you are not going to be 'addressing' or talking to in your
post should be deleted.
Whenever there is something you /are/ going to reply to, that should be
'retained' ie left undeleted and followed by an empty line and then your
reply there. If there is anything else in the quoted text below to what
you are going to reply, it should also be retained and answered in
context. Everything else, most especially including the cited's sig,
which OE without QuoteFix won't auto trim, should be deleted.
Only after all of that cleanup and posting of your reply is finished
should your sig be placed at the bottom, where it belongs. That does
not happen automatically. You can use the toolbar 'Sign' tool or
ctrl-shft-S or alt-I-S -- but OE will not handle autosig correctly.
OE was 'designed' for the corporate type of email TOFU correspondence,
textover fullquote under, in which the complete untouched text of what
came before is retained below - typically referred to as 'top posting',
and not appropriate for conversational newsgroup discussions
Top posting is an understatement of that style. That style is untrimmed
non-contextualized top posting. There should be no such thing as its
'opposite', untrimmed non-contextualized 'bottom' posting. The debate
is between trimmed and contextualized versus untrimmed
noncontextualized. And, depending upon where such a debate is taking
place, there is also no debate.
There are a very few newsgroups in which topposting is tolerated or even