Another mistery metal

Apr 17, 2006 6 Replies

Down at school today I found the teacher had been trying to machine a few router bases from some sheet material he was given (don't know the whole story) and was having trouble. SO! Here is the data I have at present: Color gray Non magnetic (could feel no pull with a mag base) Sparks very white long stringes with small fan on end. Density analysis: Measured thickness and dimensions of a rectangular peice (which had been cut with a plasma cutter) Thickness 0.181" Length 9 3/4 " Width 3 1/8 " for a volume of 5.51 in cubed weighed in the chem lab 408.04 gms (the chem teacher :-) ) SO the density works out to be : 4.51 gms/cc 3.17 oz/in^3 342.2 lb/ft^3



Rings like a bell when struck with a metal object.



Looked in Machinerys Handbook and no densities listed for such things. Didn't have a Chem Phys Handbk handy>



Any ideas? ...lew...


LOTS of bright white sparks?? Probably Titanium of some sort.

Could be europium or germanium. (But most likely a titanium alloy. )

Matweb will do a property search for you. I asked for a density between .18 and .20 lb/in^3

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Ned Simmons

Lew Hartswick wrote in news:nXU0g.3155 $ snipped-for-privacy@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Yup. Grade 4 Titanium. Do a Google search on CP 4 Titanium.

Here's a site that gives the density:

Titanium is pyrophoric. I'd think twice about cutting it with a plasma cutter.

Sure sounds like titanium to me. LLoyd

No, not per se. Titanium particles smaller than about 400 mesh are. Larger particles are not.

We use tons of flake and sponge titanium each year in our pyrotechnics. You have to get it pretty hot to ignite.

OTOH, when it does burn, it burns HOT, and propagates easily in the presence of sufficient oxygen.

Also... Yes... the sparks are bright white(ish) with a small 'fan' (called the Senko Hanabi-type spark) at the end.

LLoyd

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote in news:x541g.119089$ snipped-for-privacy@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

Ok. Combustable is probably a better term. But don't put nitric acid on it. Ditto for LOX. It is truly pyrophoric then.

I've lit long turning chips that were thicker, wider, and longer than .0015" (400 mesh) with nothing more than a Bic lighter. I've also seen more than one machine burned to the ground as a result of a titanium fire.

You can plasma cut it if you want, but I'd be careful. Especially if you create a thin edge. You need to be particularly aware of whats under the torch as well. The recommended method for plasma cutting Ti and Ti alloys is either submerged in water or water shielded. The hydrogen given off will result in flames above the water.

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