OT - How to Scare Off Coyotes?

I'm not sure if that is facetious remark but I do know something of wild pigs.

If you want an adrenaline high that will take you a week to get off of, picture this.

You're hanging by the horn off the side of a horse that is running flat out. And you're urging him to go faster because the boar that weighs half as much as the horse is making fringe out of your chaps.

You would forget that your original mission was to put out a salt block if that block weren't in a feed sack tied to the saddle horn and is now bloodying your nose.

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At close range and full power the whistle would probably destroy the microphone/tweeter.

Place it at the focus of the dish, which is where the LNA was. Those dishes are offset fed sections of a paraboloid so it isn't obvious where the line-of-sight is. So, a tweeter down range, with a meter either with long wires or a spotting scope, to act as a mike/sensor. Hunt around until you're hitting the mike, adjust focus for max output (adjusting aim as necessary), then adjust optical sight so it's also aimed at the distant mike.

Such a setup is slightly clandestine because it doesn't look like it's pointing in the direction it is. If mounted upside down it would look like it was pointed at the sky when it's line of sight would be horizontal.

Might work, but the dish does provide a lot of directional gain in the beam. A lot, a factor of several thousand over an omnidirectional whistle.

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Don Foreman

Ayup. Feral hogs in Liberty and Montgomery county, just NE of Houston.

Steve

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Steve B

I really do love my Swift but if I were to do it over I would go for a

22-250 . Cheaper brass and a lot less throat erosion . I like the 243 but I decided for real long shots to use my 06 . I figured the extra practice with it would only help my hunting as that was my main gun . I can't say as it really helped as I have never yet made a 400 yard shot at big game . Doubt I will now . To be honest I made very few 200 yard shots while hunting big stuff . Ken Cutt
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Ken Cutt

A charming bunch you are - I'm sorry I asked.

Thanks however to those few who provided intelligent responses to my query.............

Laurie Forbes

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Laurie Forbes

perspective,

Now that's a punishment I could get into. I'm not all that patient with people that think their right to "own" a critter exceed my rights to not have to put up with the damned thing. I'd be quick to sign the complaint.

Harold

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Harold and Susan Vordos

So are we. This is a metal working ng, remember?

Perhaps you should ask Oprah or Dr. Phil how to make coyotes go bye, bye without hurting their feelings.

You know, I was (still am) really in favor of women taking over th' world. But you guys are just plain inadequate to complete th' various tasks at hand. Put yer bra back on Laurie and go wash th' dishes.

Snarl

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snarl

Translation: I already knew what I wanted to hear, and the rest of us are just wrong.

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Dave Hinz

We had a mixed dog an Coyote - it was a good English collie mix. He lived to 14. He was a fantastic dog - knowing the wild and the work. We would leave it for a day or two with food in the house and water - come back with him sitting at the front window. Then he would eat and drink.

A mix really helps - but the dog even knowing our friends well wouldn't let anyone near the house while we were gone. Gentle as ever. Good friend.

But he wasn't a wild one.

Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member

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Warning, this is a bit long.

How I spent my last summer vacation.

The dog across the street, a lovely Lab, was left alone by its owners, who worked at a local casino from 6pm to 2am. They left at 5 and came home around 3-4 am. The dog would bark in three barks, wait five seconds, and do it again, and again, and again for ten hours.

We sent anonymous letters asking that they do something about the dog. No results.

We called the police who gave us Animal Control's number. They said we could sign a complaint, but then we would have to go to court as the victim in order for the thing to proceed, and the neighbor would know who turned them in. We wanted to keep peace in the neighborhood, and since this guy looked like a Soprano affiliate, we opted to try something else.

It was evening on the first call to Animal Control, and we got a recording. After that, we called and called and called every day. We were almost always channelled to a recording device, and when we did talk to a human, they said that they had sent out an officer, and the dog was not barking. I think they used their caller ID to avoid us. When we called in while the dog was barking, we would walk in front of the house with our phone and say, "Can you hear this dog barking?" woof, woof, woof ............. woof, woof, woof ...................... woof, woof, woof ....... (the sound of a Lab barking)

One day, Animal Control called us at 4:30 AM to tell us that they had sent an officer out there, and the dog was not barking. My wife fielded the call, and acted just like she was up anyway. She's a light sleeper. Not sure why they called us at 0430.

The dog kept on. We kept on calling.

Finally, we saw our councilman at church. We told him about the dog, the

0430 call from Animal Control, and the repeated reports. He said, "I will take care of this," and that was all he said.

The dog stopped barking a couple of days later. I imagine a couple of butts got chewed at Animal Control. We then got a letter from the DA's office asking us if we wanted to file a complaint and prosecute. Along with that question was a long list of things that we should know about before we filed a complaint, including that we could be prosecuted for filing a false report if it turned out to be unjustified, and that the people who owned the dog might sue US for harassment.

But the dog did stop barking.

I own two dogs, but I was having some serious thoughts about doing harm to that dog.

Steve

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Steve B

On Fri, 12 May 2006 16:30:14 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Rex B quickly quoth:

I live outside the city limits, too, so county noise regs aren't as tight as city. Additionally, taxes are exactly HALF that of city dwellers. But I still don't want to put up with barking dogs. I'll see if I can get their name and phone number from their neighbors (who may be as angry as I am at the constant noise.)

The noise level dropped 70% when I put in the dual-glazed windows, and with foam earplugs, I can get right to sleep even if the GDMFSOB dog is going off right then, so I've mellowed out a whole lot since it first started.

These sock cucking dog owners all must be STONE DEAF, y'reckon?

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Larry Jaques

On Fri, 12 May 2006 15:23:03 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Foreman quickly quoth:

Excellent!

I wonder what the sound level would be at 1,000'. The offending pet is across a 2 acre field, the RR tracks, and a street.

If you would like to build 3 (so you're never caught short again, the NEXT time a mutt moves in) I'll see if Rex will go in with me to pay your costs. I don't have a lathe yet, but do have a spare Dish Network dish. What wavelength are those, anyway? (OoK, Wiki say "KU band.")

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Larry Jaques

Umm...?

Kevin Gallimore

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axolotl

We used to have a couple of dozen cats. Now we have just two or three black ones, which I think were simply too dark for the coyote to see, because he only came at night. I'm glad that the cats are gone, myself, but I do understand how this could be a problem for somebody else.

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MikeMandaville

I think atmospheric absorption might be excessive at much over 200 feet. Massa's book on Ultrasonics may have charts, if I can find it in the basement.

I think DirecTV is in the range of 12.2 to 12.7 GHz, lambda of about

1.8 cm or 0.72 in. 22 KHz ultrasound has lambda of 1.5 cm or 0.6 in, pretty comparable.

I'm stacked with projects at the moment, but I'll put a Hartmann back on the "ta do" list. Right now I'm trying to add electric drive to my boat lift winch and "goin' to the lake" time is getting real close even in MN. I'm adding some sprockets and adapting the motor and planetary gear drive from a scrounged ATV winch. I'd rather push a button than wind that 40" handwheel 40 revs with 20 lb of tangential force every time I wanna go out for a little while. A commercial gadget to do this runs over $500. I have about $10 in it so far, my time is free. Unfortunately, my wife has figured out the "my time is free" concept so there are plenty of honeydo projects.

I'm also welding up a "drop dolly" so I can roll a new 36" high (on casters) tool chest under my 33" high bench.

Man, I bet there are a bunch of wet, cold walleye fishers out there today for the opener, but they might well catch some fish with weather as lousy as it is. They'll earn 'em!

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Don Foreman

I'm glad you didn't harm the dog. It's the owners that are to blame. A lab can be broken of the barking habit. Been there, done that. My beloved Charlie fell into that for a little while when she was about

  1. I got a couple of friendly complaints. What finally worked was to duct-tape her mouth shut for about 4 hours on a cool day when panting wasn't required. Man, she hated that duct tape! After 4 hours of silent solitude and eventual resignation to her misery, the tape was removed none too gently and then she got a dairy queen as reward for her (enforced) good behavior. Man, that dog loved her ice cream cones!

Lesson learned, was never forgotten for the remainder of her 18-year life. I know labs aren't supposed to live that long, but Charlie didn't know that.

I don't know for sure that the ultrasonic headache would train a distant dog, but I kinda think it might. ARF --OW! And so on.

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Don Foreman

If lead poisoning doesn't work, then just mix large quantities of rat poison with some hamburger. Keep your own pets chained or locked up until the crisis is over. Any extra critters you nail this way are just a bonus. Had some neighbors out here in the country threaten to shoot our dogs for being on their property, well we're farm people too. Needless to say they got the pictures of their dogs on our property handed to them along with two shotgun shells. That took the wind out of their sails right quick. Anyway, what I was trying to say with that little story, is if one of the neighborhood pets gets into your coyote treat, oh well, that's the risk you take when you let your pets run free.

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whiskers69

Um what, Kevin? Speed of sound in air is about 1100 ft/sec, speed of em radiation is 3*10^8 meters/sec. Downlink part of Ka band is about 18 GHz, lambda is about 1.67 cm. Lambda of 22000 Hz sound in air is about 1.52 cm.

DirecTV is in Ku band between 12.2 to 12.7 Ghz, lambda is about 2.4 cm.

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Don Foreman

Um.. Kevin had another rough week, and his abused mind sped right by "ultrasound" without looking.

Kevin Gallimore

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axolotl

Anti bark training collars are about $25-80 bucks at most pet places. More for large dogs.

If you have a problem, ask your neighbor if you can train the dog not to bark. Vet approved, humane etc etc. Then go buy one and stick it on the dog. It works in about 2 days at most. When solved..put it on the shelf until the conditioning breaks in a couple years, then repeat.

Works great, keeps peace.

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