OT: The new Durflame "logs"

In other words, get used to it - and you won't notice! Gosh, if you could can it and compress and can that - then send it back as a present. But that might be considered sending a carbon bomb. Martin

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Martin H. Eastburn
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Hmm...do they smell like rancid French fries, by any chance? Their description makes me think they've raided the sumps behind a McDonald's somewhere.

-- Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

He's in Florida. That's the part of the continent where ice is found in stores, not outside. Where 50 degrees (F. ~10 C) is cold enough to bring out the sweaters.

Where the humidity is high, and the wildlife find that it is a constant struggle to eat something before it rots away. And the wood eating bugs are right up there in their desire to eat well "before it goes bad". [Rule one of healthy eating "Eat nothing which won't rot." Rule two: "Eat it before it does." So for him, a cord of wood would be a life time supply - provided it lasts a lifetime without being eaten by bugs, or rotting away.

tschus pyotr

P.s., yes, I know there are tropical hardwoods which are very resistant to insects and rot. But "resistant" and "proof against" are not the same.

-- pyotr filipivich "I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender whether they served zombies he said, ?Sure, what'll you have?'" from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries

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pyotr filipivich

You mean like the neighbour with the large dog who gets the tissue wrapped "puppy packet" delivered at high velocity to the front door area. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

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Gerald Miller

My parents live about 100 miles from you. Dad's firewood rack is about one foot off the ground in full sun. I guess I've never asked, but I assume he's not having 'mite trouble with this setup. After repairing my sister's house from termites, I'm positive he don't tolerate any being around.

Karl

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Karl Townsend

And where I come from (Western Canada), in the middle of the biggest kill- off of pine trees anywhere, our village council has decided, in its collective wisdom, to ban wood-burning stoves and allow only PELLET stoves which meet the California emission standards. Would be lovely if they enforced California weather standards in the middle of British Columbia too!

Mike, in Burns Lake, BC

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Michael Gray

So why are the pines dying?

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Mountain pine beetle.

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Ian Gay

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're recent transplants to Okanagan Valley from Muskoka, where we heated with wood...mainly maple that grows like weeds, and of course are aware of "pine beetle".

In our area no such ban exists, on the face of it, it sounds very silly, is there some rationale? We have debris burning restrictions because the valley can hold the smoke. Ken

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Ken S. Tucker

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:52:52 GMT, the infamous Michael Gray scrawled the following:

What was their reasoning to do that?

AFAIC, wood stoves have outlived their welcome. Whenever one or two of the damned things light up here in the Rogue Valley, it's smoggy all day. The next county down, Jackson, has smog laws. They outlawed wood burners and OKed pellets. From an eco standpoint, wood stoves are far more polluting than pellet and they give out far less heat in return. I just sold my insert, having never used it in the 6 years I've been here, because I hate the smoke inside the house as much as out. My 96% efficient natural gas forced-air furnace is much, much nicer. I boarded up the front of my fireplace so it doesn't stink, too.

A warm fire at a lodge or restaurant is great. Inside a house it's a menace and a real bother. Ptui!

Wouldn't _that_ be nice? All those lovely women who used to wear heavy, warm, full-body coverups would then be in bikinis. What's not to love about that?

-- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren

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Larry Jaques

If it was the USA you could shoot them...

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

I rather doubt that McDonald's has any waste fats, except possibly from the griddle where they fry the burgers, but that would be animal fat not vegetable fat.

I once read an article in the local newspaper about a guy who recycles fat from restaurants. He was making good money -- I think close to $100K a year, and that was over 20 years ago. But it's very hard work, and very smelly. And the waste fat often has maggots in it. He said that even though the money's good, he's got very little competition.

And he said he didn't have any doughnut shops on his collection route. "All their fat goes over the counter."

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Mark Thorson

They have large volumes from the french-fyers that they used to have to pay to dispose of. Now there are collectors running around taking it off of their hands and turning it into biodiesel.

One outfit in Philadelphia that's doing this, financed by venture capital and run by a couple of very enterprising women, apparently smells so bad that the neighbors forced them to put some kind of odor control on the system.

Ha-ha! He may have gotten out of it too soon. Those women in Philly supposedly are about to break even.

-- Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

Actually, it the fungus carried by the beetle which kills the pines. Many of the pine trees where I live were killed a little over 10 years ago, following a hard freeze. The freeze weakened the trees, and the pine beetles were everywhere. You could tell a tree had an infestation because it would have little piles of sawdust-like material at its base.

Then, a few months later it would sprout white caps along the bark, and the needles would turn brown. By that point, it was way too late. Some neighbors tried to save their trees by aggressively pruning the dead parts, but that never worked. By the time the tree shows signs of damage, it is already doomed. You can see that when the tree is cut down -- the wood is shot through with fungus.

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Mark Thorson

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