>
>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> What Yoor and TMT can't seem to realize is that no matter how >>>>>>>> much the
>>>>>>>> new program was like the old, even to the point of being absolutely
>>>>>>>> identical, that would NOT make Bush responsible for it. Only the
>>>>>>>> administration that started the new program would be responsible >>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, there was a kid riding a motorcycle that was killed near
>>>>>>> where I live last week. Would you like to hear all the details about
>>>>>>> it? I doubt it because his death had nothing to do with Obama. >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fast and Furious is the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not. It occurred under Obama's watch and much as people >>>>>> would
>>>>>> like to blame Bush for it and/or claim it's not Obama's
>>>>>> responsibility.
>>>>>> They would be wrong on both counts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, didn't the accident where kid who died in the motorcycle crash
>>>>> happen on Obama's watch too? I mean the kid died and Obama was >>>>> president
>>>>> so it happened under his watch. So according to your logic Obama is
>>>>> responsible. It happened under his watch!
>>>>
>>>> You know you're engaging in rank and low-quality sophistry on this. >>>> More
>>>> to the point, *we* know you are.
>>>>
>>>> Your comparison is invalid, and you know it. Obama didn't appoint >>>> anyone
>>>> who implemented a program and oversaw the implementation of it that led
>>>> to the death of the motorcyclist. Obama *did* appoint Eric Holder as
>>>> attorney-general, and Fast and Furious was *not* conceived, approved >>>> and
>>>> carried out without Holder's knowledge, if not deep involvement. When >>>> it
>>>> went wrong, *that* definitely came to Holder's attention, but he has
>>>> since lied and claimed he didn't have knowledge that it is documented >>>> he
>>>> *did* have.
>>>
>>> My point was that the accusations against Obama on this are as stupid
>>> as blaming him for a kid getting killed on a motorcycle.
>>
>> Except they aren't. Obama was the person ultimately responsible for F&F. >>
>> Obama wasn't likely to even be involved with the issue of the motorcycle. >>
>> So it's simply trying to compare apples and oranges.
>>
>> Why are you doing that?
>>
>> IMO, it's because you have to invent some excuse for not holding Obama
>> responsible.
>>
>> Probably because he's a Democrat and you simply can't blame a Democrat
>> for anything they do wrong.
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>
> You haven't got a shred of evidence that Obama knew a thing about F&F, do > you?
It's the man at the top, whether he knew about it or not does NOT eliminate his responsibility.
See that's what it means to be the leader, you are responsible for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that occurs under you....whether you knew about it or not.
Apparently you don't understand this concept of leadership, or more likely you're simply trying to event yet another excuse for why you shouldn't blame a Democrat.