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I love the .41 dies! It would do clover leaves. Too bad I no longer have any firearms.

Yeah, bummer. Sold them to the guy with the camel who kept yelling "Hollow at the bar!"

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I love the .41 dies! It would do clover leaves. Too bad I no longer have any firearms.

Im glad that I never sent you the dies. Mine shoots pretty well to for the new owner.

Btw..were those carbide or regular dies? I cant remember

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

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Well, this IS the Obama economy after all. Everyone is having trouble. That's what you guys call "fair".

I'm not. But then I wasn't handicapped with being an irrational f****it like you phony conservatives. The fact that you're sitting there proves that you prefer that over doing something more productive. Ask any successful person and they'll tell that if you want to get ahead, then do it BEFORE you start wasting time on Usenet. Unless you really believe that blaming Obama for your shortcomings makes more sense than getting off your ass, in which case carry on. But remember that when you dare to say that there weren't enough hours in the day to get ahead, your idiotic posts will always be in the archives mocking you.

Why should people try? Obama just wants to take away what we earn and give it to people that don't work, we should be those who don't work so Obama can give us your tax dollars!

Please work harder so Obama can give us more money!

Thank you!

RogerN

Hummmm. Why are you here then?

Hummmm. Why are you here then?

You funny.

Why should people try? Obama just wants to take away what we earn and give it to people that don't work, we should be those who don't work so Obama can give us your tax dollars!

Please work harder so Obama can give us more money!

Thank you!

RogerN

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Please Roger, get with reality!

They never say "thank you." They just say "More!"

CS

Steel, but I used to lube cases anyway.

Ok, I was wondering as I found 2 more sets, both steel as well. Im starting my first 250 today. Soon as I finish fixing up the RCBS bench priming machine.

Evidently I stocked up on .41 Mag dies, brass and factory cast and jacketed bullets, along with bullet molds somewhere in the past.

The follow up after the memory loss from the stroke....some days its like Christmas all over again.

Ill open a box and Wheeee! New stuff!!! Where/when did I get that stuff!??

Ive got a decent pair of Lee 195gr SWC molds, one single cavity, one double cavity. No idea of where they came from. Probably Ebay..shrug

Id send you the single cavity if you need one. No idea if they are accurate or not. Ill cast some up and try em.

Im hoping I have a .411 luber die, though I expect there is one in there. Ill have to dig through the 20+ or so in that drawer., given that Id stocked up on .41 stuff.

Im loading 210gr SWCs, moly coated Buffalo Bullet Co, unopened box of

500. Chuckle..no idea of where they came from.

Ive been going through the reloading shop slowly. (4) Lyman 20lb melting pots?? 4??? I remember 2.

I found another luber-sizer in a box out in the shop, with a die for

8mm in it last month.

I remember a friend of mine dying in a motorcycle vrs pickup truck accident and buying most of his reloading gear from the family..but that was 6 or so years ago...so that may be where some of that stuff came from..or some of the other stuff..tons of stuff. Literally.

(3) 5 gallon buckets of 45 ACP brass. Found em under the reloading bench. Full. I think Im good to go for 45 brass for a couple decades...

On the other hand..Im missing at least 3 spare presses that I cant find anywhere. The bright blue Pacific was on my B&D Workmate as a range reloading bench..I think I loaned the B&D to someone..sometime..as they are gone, along with the extra Ohaus 10-10 scale and other bits that went with it. It never came back..damnit!!

And Im missing an old Hollywood and I think..an orange Lyman. Maybe. Kinda sorta remember having them....

Im missing at least 3 Lee priming tools..well..parts for most of them..and my press mounted priming tools and all but (1) of the priming tubes..a small one. And I hardly ever reload using small primers. Mostly 38/357...of which Ill be loading a couple thousand this month.

I guess Im going to have to open and browse through my Ebay archives and see what Ive bought over the last 6-7 yrs. Shrug.

I hope I got good deals....sigh.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Ebay only shows back through 2011. Looks like I bought 2 sets of dies in July of that year. Damn..I thought I was healed up by that point. Looks like I wasnt. Shit.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Cool! You can hide your own Easter eggs! Don't forget that $20 you owe me! Let me know when you get to the .41 tumble-lubed cast parts I sent. They came from a Lee 2-hole mold. They group great but I hate less than 6 hole molds. I was thinking of making a press from a bunch of air presses a bud gave me...it would save on the shoulder at the expense of feel.

Whats your accuracy load for those bullets?

I dont really owe you $20..do I? If I do..seriously..let me know. The memory...the memory.....

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

It's been fun playing with the troll but he is repeating himself. Sorry better things to do. Have a totally lovely day.

p.s. You still funny.

No, I think it was a $50! Yea, Yea...a $50! (just kidding) I used 7gr IMR 700X Hi-Skor

Thanks. Thats what Ill load those at.

Ive got some Greendot that has a good history, at a 7grs-7.4 grs with the 210gr SWC moly bullets on hand.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Any favorite powders for pistols? 9mm and 44 mag?

I bought a pound of "Herco" because it was in my loading manual for the 9mm and the shotgun, but it's dirty, gun starts jamming too soon.

RogerN

Oh..in case you were wondering..I have a few pounds of Greendot on hand that was intended for shotgun loads..but I went to a different powder (Reddot) ..so Ill use it up in the .41 mag. Ive had those cans of Greendot for at least 10 or more years..shrug

Greendot is a very very underrated pistol cartridge powder and Ive burned at least a hundred pounds of it over the years. Its just a smidge slower than Unique and fills that area very nicely. It will do everything Unique will do. I bought what I have left from the family of a friend who had died, for $3 a pound. I think I bought 6 lbs at the time, gave 1 or 2 away to another friend and have burned a fair amount of it up in 12ga shotgun loads since then.

Greendot is bulky and it works very well in 9mm as well with a full case..almost a compressed load.

If someone finds a few cans of Greendot kicking around someplace for a cheap price..snag it!!! Ive even loaded cast bullets in the 3030, 308 and 3006 with it with very good accuracy. Good to about 1500 FPS.

Just found this on Reddot..which some of you may find interesting. And his results match 30 yrs of my own.

" There is a well known article by C.E. Harris about using Red Dot as a propellant in a variety of calibers. As noted earlier, these are reduced loads - though certainly not "squib" loads. The powder charge used id 13 grains and works well across a wide range of bullet weights. Read the article before loading any rounds. Pete Here is the article: Date: 17 Feb 94 17:50:11 From: Ed Harris To: All Subj: Red Dot in Reduced Rifle Loads

"The Load" is 13 Grains of Red Dot" (In most strong-actioned, military rifles of .30 cal. or larger) READ ON FOR SPECIFICS AND WARNINGS!

(If you missed this article when it originally appeared in Handloader's Digest, 10th Edition, here it is again...

By C.E. (Ed) Harris, Revised 2-16-94

My success in economizing by using up leftover shotshell powder has changed my approach to handloading. I had a caddy of Red Dot, and no longer reloaded shotshells, so asked myself, "what can I do with it?" My shooting is now mostly high-power rifle. I needed several hundred rounds a week to practice offhand, reloading, and working the bolt in sitting and prone rapid, but didn't want to burn out my barrel or my wallet. Powder used to be cheap, but today is $20/lb. (or more), so cost is a factor in component choice.

I used to ignore pistol or shotgun powders in reduced rifle loads for the usual reasons: the risk of accidental double-charges, fears of erratic ignition, and concerns with maintaining accuracy, and reduced utility with a low-power load. Still, the caddy of Red Dot kept "looking at me" from the corner. Would it work? Looking at data in the RCBS Cast Bullet Manual No. 1 and the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook suggested it would, so I tried it, much to my delight! Red Dot is bulky, compared to the usual rifle powders used in .30-'06-size cases. It occupies more powder space in typical charges than common "reduced load" rifle powders, such as #2400, IMR4227, IMR4198 or RL-7. The lower bulk density of Red Dot adequately addresses my safety concerns because it makes an accidental double charge far less likely.

After considerable experimentation, my friends and I found "The Load" is 13 grains of Hercules Red Dot, in any FULL SIZED rifle case of .30 cal. or larger. "The Load" has distinct advantages over more expensive alternatives, within certain limitations, which are:

1. The case must be LARGER than the .300 Savage or .35 Remington.

1. The rifle must be of MODERN (post 1898) design, suitable for smokeless powder, with a bore size of .30 cal. or larger.

2. The bullet weight must be within the NORMAL range for the given cartridge.

1. Inert fillers such as Dacron, kapok or are NOT RECOMMENDED! (Nor are they necessary).

Within these restrictions I have now engraved in stone, "The Load" works! The bullet may be either jacketed or cast. Gaschecked cast bullets required in the .30 cals., otherwise you will get leading, but plainbased ones work fine in the 8mm Mauser or larger.

"The Load" has shown complete success in the .30-40 Krag, .303 British, 7.65 Argentine, .308 Win., 7.62x54R Russian, .30-'06,

8x57 and .45-70 (strong-actioned rifles such as the 1886 Winchester or 1895 Marlin -- 12 grs. is maximum for 400 gr. bullets in the Trapdoor Springfield -- Ed.) Though I have not tried it, I have no doubt that "The Load" would work well in other cartridges fitting these parameters, such as the .35 Whelen, .358 Winchester, .375 H&H or .444 Marlin, based on RCBS and Lyman published data.

"The Load" fills 50% or more of a .308 Win or .30-'06 case. The risk of an accidental double charge is greatly reduced, because the blunder is immediately obvious if you visually check, powder fill on EVERY CASE, as you should whenever handloading! A bulky powder measures more uniformly, because normal variation in the measured volume represents a smaller percentage of the charge weight.

Red Dot's granulation is somewhat less coarse than other flake powders of similar burning rate, such as 700-X, which aids metering. Its porous, uncoated flakes are easily ignited with standard primers. So-called "magnum" primers do no harm in cases larger than the .30-'06, but are neither necessary nor recommended in smaller ones. I DO NOT recommend pistol primers in reduced rifle loads, because weak primers may cause erratic ignition, and their thinner cups can perforate more easily, causing gas leakage and risk of personal injury!

The velocities obtained with 13 grs. of Red Dot appear mild, but "The Load" is no pipsqueak! In a case like the .308 or .30-'06, you get (from a 24" sporter barrel) about 1450 f.p.s. with a 200- gr. cast bullet, 1500 with a 170-gr., or 1600 with a 150-gr. cast load. "The Load" is fully comparable to "yesterday's deer rifle", the .32-40, and provides good expansion of cheap, soft alloys (10-13 BHN) at woods ranges. Jacketed bullet velocities with "The Load" are about 120-150 f.p.s. less than a lubricated lead bullet of the same weight.

Longer-barreled military rifles pick up a few feet per second, but "The Load" starts to slow down in barrels over 28", such as the M91 Moisin-Nagant and long Krags or 98a Mausers.

My preferred alloy in the .30 cals. is a mixture of 3-5 lbs. of .22 backstop scrap to 1 lb. of salvaged linotype. Wheelweights also work well, as do soft "Scheutzen" alloys such as 1:25 tin/lead. in bores of 8 mm or larger. "The Load" drives soft- cast .30-cal. to 8 mm bullets fast enough to get expansion, but without fragmenting. These out-penetrate factory .30-30 softpoints, and kill medium game up to 150 lbs. well at short ranges up to 100 yards, when placed accurately. In medium and large bores like the .375 H&H or .45-70, "The Load" gives typical black powder ballistics for the bore. A 255-265 gr. cast bullet in the .375 H&H approximates the .38-55 at 1330 f.p.s. Soft 300-

405-gr. cast bullets are pushed at 1300-1350 f.p.s. from a 22" barrel .45-70, sporter are very effective on deer at woods ranges. Cast bullets over .35 cal. do not have to expand appreciably to work well on game if blunt and heavy for their caliber.

The Load" works well with jacketed bullets, giving somewhat lower velocities than with cast lead, due to less effective obturation and greater friction in the bore. The 85-gr. or 100-gr. Hornady or 90-gr. Sierra JHP for the .32 H&R Mag. revolver, or the Remington 100-gr. .32-20 softpoint bullet become mild, but destructive varmint loads at 1600 f.p.s. from a .308 or '06.

If you substitute a stiffly jacketed 110-gr. .30 Carbine softpoint bullet, designed for higher velocities than imparted by "The Load", you have a non-destructive "coup de gras", small game or wild turkey load which shoots close to your deer rifle's normal zero, but at 25 yards! A more accurate and effective small game or varmint load uses a flat-nosed 150-gr. pr 170-gr. .30-30 bullet instead. These don't expand at the 1400-1450 f.p.s. obtained with "The Load", but their larger frontal area improves killing power compared to roundnoses or spitzers.

I have use pulled GI .30 caliber Ball, and Match bullets with "The Load" for cheap 200-yd. NMC boltgun practice. Accuracy is equal to arsenal loads, but I use my 600-yard sight dope at 200 yards. I expect 5-6" ten-shot, iron-sight groups at 200 yards using M2 or M80 pulled bullets and about 3-4" for the M72 or M118 Match bullets. I use these mostly in bolt-action rifles, but they can be single-loaded for offhand or slow-fire practice ion the Garand as well. These .30 cal. pulls shoot fine in the .303 British or 7.62x54 Russian, despite their being a bit small, because the fast-burning Red Dot upsets them into the deeper grooves. The 173-gr. Match .30 cal. boattail bullets may not shoot as well at these low velocities as lighter flat bases in the 12" twist .308 Win. barrels, but they do quite well in ten- inch twist barrels such as in the '06, 7.62 Russian, .303 British and 7.65 Argentine.

The longer bore time of these 1400 f.p.s. (typical 170-180-gr. jacketed load velocity) practice loads makes errors in follow- through apparent, a great practice and training aid. The light recoil and lower report of these loads helps transition Junior tyro shooters from the .22 rimfire to the service rifle without being intimidated by the noise and recoil.

Zeroing is no problem in the M1 or M14, because "The Load" shoots into the ten-ring of the reduced SR target at 200 yards from your M1 or M14 rifle at using your normal 600 yard sight dope! The somewhat greater wind deflection blows you into the "8" ring at

200 yards with the same conditions you would expect to do so at 600 yards with M118 Match ammunition. This provides your Junior shooters some useful wind-doping practice.

The economy of a lighter charge is obvious. A full power .30-'06 load using 50 grs. of an IMR powder like 4064 costs 10 cents a pop, just for powder, at 140 rounds per pound (if you are lucky enough to find new powder for $14/lb.). Substituting 13 grs. of Red Dot gets 538 rounds per pound at a cost of 2.6 cents which is a savings of over $7 per hundred rounds in powder alone! Greater savings are possible if you get the best price and buy powder by the caddy.

Velocity and point of impact of "The Load" is not noticeably affected by varying powder position in the case. I shoot them either slow fire, or clip-fed and flipped through rapid-fire in the boltgun with equal accuracy. Red Dot is very clean burning and is economical both on the basis of its lower charge weight, and its lower basic cost per pound compared to other "rifle" powders.

Best of all, using a shotshell powder I already have reduces the kinds of powder I keep and eliminates the need for a special "reduced load" powder. This approach is ideal for rifle shooters who are also shotgunners, since almost everybody who reloads for

12-ga. probably has a keg of Red Dot already!

I now realize it is foolish to use heavier charges of more expensive powder for routine practice, varmint or small game loads in my center-fire rifles. I seldom shoot at over 200 yards, and don't enjoy wearing out expensive target barrels unnecessarily. Since I already have good sight dope and need to work more on technique and save my remaining barrel accuracy life for matches.

I am glad I found the way to get alot more shooting for the dollar. Economical powder choice IS possible, and my reloading has become less complicated and more enjoyable simple since I realized I could do most of my rifle shooting with 13 grains of Red Dot!"

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

In other words, exactly like Gunner. Running away with your fingers in your ears, farting and claiming you'll never surrender. The alternative of simply backing up your horseshit is always something you morons pretend you can do, and yet mysteriously never get around to doing.