snipped-for-privacy@nowhere.com (Speechless) wrote in news:43f6adc7.38586109 @news.sasktel.net:
Bad news, boobie: the "WinModem" is HARDWARE, too!
snipped-for-privacy@nowhere.com (Speechless) wrote in news:43f6adc7.38586109 @news.sasktel.net:
Bad news, boobie: the "WinModem" is HARDWARE, too!
Maybe, but there are a bunch of them that are (mostly) soft stuff.
There has to be some hardware to latch the output bits, but the rest of what goes on inside a UART can be emulated with code.
It's a lot cheaper in high volume production.
My pleasure
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
It is "hardware" BUT it is not a true hardware modem. A true hardware modem is self contained and has the controller and processing power on it to allow it to handle the entire process of dialing,handshake process, and logging. The drivers for it only tell the computer the way to turn it on/off, how to set the phone number that it calls and what method it can use to talk to the outside world. A winmodem on the other hand is entirely dependent on the computer to provide the processing power and protocols for communication. It used to be that you only bought true hardware modems but once the processor power got high enough the makers decided they could cut some components out.
Steve
Ok, I found one that didn't work.
Tried using my cell phone as a modem on my lap top.
The windoze driver works fine, but it didn't come up under Ubuntu. go figure...
Richard
Actually..a WinModem is considered to be a Software modem. And its rare that they will work with much of anything besides Windows.
That being said..there are a number of attempts by some linux programmers to be able to utilize them.
Google Linux and winmodem. I supplied some links last night.
Gunner
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
Hardware modem = works with Linux Software modem, aka "WinModem", works only with Windows Which do you have? <
That seems to be the problem. It's a V-92 56k fax win modem. I guess I can put it in my older computer and get a new non win modem for the newer one. Thanks guys.
73 Gary
google is your friend.
Lots of linux junkies porting just about anything you can think of to linux
Gunner
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
You don't have to take my word for it. You can go directly to the manufacturer's web site at:
The good news is that you really don't need to understand the differences. All you need to know is that if you are running an operating system other than Micros*ft Windows, you need to utter the phrase, "I want to purchase a controller-based hardware modem that will work with my Linux" expressed in a language that is understood by your favorite computer retailer the next time you visit him.
Weeell, while I'm obviously never wrong, it may be that this one time I was a little short on being right :^)
Seems that some FOOL can't click on the right dialer. My PCM modem was not installed at the moment, and, well, it SHOULD have worked anyway, right?
Richard
There are several versions of KPPP that will seek out and configure the win modems.
Google is your friend
Gunner
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
FWIW--
There are several emulators that will let you run windows programs under Linux. This can be important where the windows programs have features/macros that you use a lot. For example my main statistics program is Excel with the WinStat add-in. Also I like the BBC script add-ins for Word.
There appear to be several emulators out there. One that is free is available at
Also an emulator called Wine and another called Win4Lin..
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
Thanks, Unk.
will check it out...
Richard
Haven't checked into Wine yet, but Win4Lin is not really an "emulator". It simply allows one to run Windows apps under Linux - AS windows apps. ie: Windows is required and is tehn running - holes and all...
Thanks,
Richard
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