Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about?? Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?
What's the weather norms?
All clues welcome!!
Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario.
Can't help you other than recommend you visit Hoover Dam. It was the best part of my once and only visit to Lost Wages. I did the short tour. I wish I had done the long tour.
Wes
Geezzzzzzzzzzzzz Steve you and the wife is really old to have lived there over a hundred years.... :-) the wife and I were there in
2002. I would really recomend the hover experience. I thought that the whole Vegas thing wasn't all that it should have been. We spent two weeks on our trip, all but four days were spent checking out Arizona. We flew into Vega because of the airline rates and got a SUV from there. Planning on heading back this February just to spend some time in the desert.... This winter thing here in Maine really sucks a big on as I get older.jeff
My wife and I lived in Las Vegas for over 100 years. Still, we couldn't tell you what shows or restaurants to go to. I'm not going to pay $150 to see ANYONE for an hour, and I'm not going to pay $100 for a meal even if I won a bundle. We were there during the "old days" when "the boys" ran things.
We go there now, do our work, and get the hell out as quickly as we can.
So, some positives:
Go to Review-Journal's Best of Review that gives the best places for everything from pizza to paintball AS RATED BY THE LOCALS. This may take you to some out of the way places that will be far better and far cheaper than the Strip corridor.
If you go Downtown, park in the Horseshoe parking garage, and use the elevators to take you to the casino. Get your ticket validated at the cage, and you have free parking. DO NOT walk around anywhere outside of the FREMONT STREET EXPERIENCE on the side streets unless you're looking for a girl, some dope, or some trouble. You can easily find all three. Within The Experience, there are quite a few Metro officers, plus security guards from each hotel. A little gritty, but safe. Kinda like going to Bourbon Street.
Shows are up to you. Don't know who's showing right now. Some of the nondescript shows at the hotels are entertaining, and not near as expensive as the name entertainer shows. There are a couple of those big screen experiences, IIRC. There is a climbing wall at Game Zone, or something like that close to the Coca Cola museum, IIRC. Fun if you like arcades. Noisy if you don't.
Lots of good food, and at good prices. Use that RJ Best Of Las Vegas guide to find some very good deals. Don't dis the coupon packages they will be pushing in your face except for the outcall girl services. Some of them have free rolls of nickels, free drinks, money off buffets, things that for a group can add up to money real quick. For the money you save by going to places other than the top of the line, it can make a big difference. You can see a few more things, or have a little gambling money.
Don't miss the Bellagio fountains. Free. The Eiffel tower is okay, but costs. Same for Stratosphere, and sometimes the line is a mile long just to get up to the arcade level. Some decent rollercoasters, NY NY, and Sahara. Circus Circus has Adventuredome, but it's schmaltzy, smells like chlorine, and just a loud carnival. Rollercoaster ride is short.
HTH
Have fun.
Steve
We drove over it about six months ago. They were about 20' out from connecting the two sides of the bridge. Like to go again soon. And yes, if you're there take the tours.
Steve
What kind of stuff are you interested doing in the desert?
Steve
A unique opportunity to fire fully automatic weapons. I hope the shooting range is still there, I believe north of town. A bit of a drive. They advertise in the local press, guides and Yellow Pages.
The Gun Store on East Tropicana, about the 2800 block. You see them occasionally on The Pawn Stars going there to document a weapon.
Steve
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:33:33 -0500, the infamous Wes scrawled the following:
of my once
Is it on again? I heard that Homeland Security had shut it down for at least a year due to security reasons. (Like you could smuggle a large bomb into the guts of the dam without some guard noticing...)
-- This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards, at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still, it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court of public opinion?a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09
The Atomic testing museum 755 East Flamingo Road.
Best Regards Tom.
I'm gonna reup with the GPAA. Got some nice nuggets the last time out and the price now makes it really nice to do some prospecting.
If things havent changed they did have actual tours of the test site itself. You have to register in advance and pass a backround check. Tours are conducted in the spring and fall, no cameras etc. Bus picks you up and brings you back to the museum. Its amazing to see the results of the nuclear tests at ground zero. Makes one hope there is never any need to use them.
Best Regards Tom.
"Larry Jaques" wrote
Well, if you heard it on TV or the Internet, it HAS to be true. Right?
Steve
"azotic" wrote
Hmmmmm. A new one on me, and close to my houses. I will go there. My dad used to wake me up early early in the morning, and we'd go see them detonate them above ground when they did that. At the time, I had no idea I had a front seat to history.
Steve
You got any places in mind? There's one where we used to go sluicing and metal detecting near a town called Meadview, in Arizona. It's about 90 miles from Vegas, and you go across Hoover Dam 43 miles into Arizona. Then north to Meadview on paved road. A couple of nasty curves past the dry lake. Largest nugget found there that was reported) was 7 oz. Our best day sluicing was 2.33 oz. Lots of gold in quartz, and quite a bit of angular placer. GPAA used to have a big dig there, but they shut them down. Now, with the down economy, I don't think there's anything going on in the area. Easy to get to. And in February, the Mojave greens won't be out. It's called King Tut, and it's a huge pyramid of processed dirt right on the road as you near Meadview. Probably see it on Google Earth. Over the hill is White Hills where the debris from a Martian meteorite hit, and that stuff is worth about a million bucks a rock.
Steve
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:50:11 -0800, the infamous "Steve B" scrawled the following:
One of my Usenet friends said they couldn't get in and that was the reason given to them.
Should I believe you (my Usenet friend) or him? ;)
-- This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards, at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still, it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court of public opinion?a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09
I say neither. Let's ask:
They say at the site that they have been conducting tours since 1937, but I do have it on good authority from local residents that tours stopped during WW2, and in order to cross the dam, you were convoyed over with a jeep every few cars with Ma Deuce's on them. You can still see pillboxes located on some of the high points at the Dam, remnants of WW2 where machinegunners were placed.
I would volunteer to dig a little deeper, and try to contact someone with the Department of the Interior for a historical time line of closures, but I am just too busy, and it don't mean that much to me. If anyone wants to do that, I'm sure it would make good reading. Hell, who knows, maybe I will be bored and have the time, and do it anyway.
I lived in Las Vegas over fifty years. I have been on the dam tours about a dozen times. It was a to do thing when relatives came to town. At times, there were areas that were cordoned off, due to reflooring, or some major work, but there was never a cessation of tours that I know of.
I don't know what it would take to bring down the dam. It is about as broad at the base as it is tall. I think a 747 would just slide down the face even if it could get through all the cables below the dam. Maybe one of those bunker busters. And even if one was to blow a hole at the top, you'd have to go down about 150' now to reach the water line. A thermonuclear device would do it. They have inspection stations on both sides, but those are jokes, really. I've been waved through after a cursory search, and only opened a couple out of a dozen bays.
I'll report back if I get any timeline.
Steve
"Larry Jaques" wrote
I wrote to the Boulder City Museum and Historical Society and requested info on tour stoppages for reasons other than maintenance and construction. They handle Hoover Dam museum.
Will advise.
Steve
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:36:02 -0800, the infamous "Steve B" scrawled the following:
No, but if they were (rightly) embarrassed about any closure by the DHS, it wouldn't be listed, would it?
Maybe I can call next week and find out. I'm still curious, but family's coming tomorrow, so...
-- This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards, at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still, it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court of public opinion?a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:46:29 -0800, the infamous "Steve B" scrawled the following:
Great, thanks!
-- This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards, at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still, it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court of public opinion?a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09
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