You're all idiots

Oct 19, 2010 57 Replies

"Wild_Bill" wrote

So, you add a twin clevis and lengthen the chain for the other vehicle(s), or leave it a little long on the short chained trailer, but not so long that they drag, or are unsafe. Putting them on as JC proposed with an improper use of a shackle, then a carabineer to hold the excess is not the safe OR correct way to do it.

But then, you (and JC, and everyone else) just do whatever you want. Hey, if it gets you there, and doesn't wipe out a car full of nuns and kids in a station wagon, what's the foul?

I bet if you could stop 100 vehicles with trailers on any given road, a high percentage of them would be hooked up either unsafe or incorrectly.

What particular point of my ignorance do you take issue with. You ramble so much, you never get around to it.

Steve

Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend.

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Indeed.

Gunner

I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote)

Point...set and Match!!

Gunner

I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote)

If you cant cut chain with a Blue Point Wrench without heating up the next link...send it out to someone who can......

I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote)

Just like you. Like JC, you're not really interested in what's right, just anything that will validate your way of doing things. So, using a shackle improperly, and using a fifty cent caribiner to hold up a length of useless chain is "practical". Well, maybe. There's a lot of that in the real world.

You're done. You may go now.

Steve

Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend.

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OK, then how about a new rule: No posting from anyone who doesn't have the credentials (and I mean REAL credentials not fantasy "experience- based" credentials) to back it up. Your years of experience don't count, only the letters after your name.

That ought to cut down on the noise around here.

BTW, I can see why the shackle MIGHT be a bad, or shall we say, "less good" idea, with a straight pin bearing on a round link, but I'm not buying that the carabiner in JC's picture is going to fail simply under the weight of the loose end of the chain.

*** I just re-read your post and JC's. I don't understand your objection to his use of a shackle, when you say that it would be OK to lengthen the chain using a dual clevis, which is basically two shackles back-to-back. I'm pleading ignorance here, and I'm not trying to stir something up, but now you've got me curious.

There's the right way, the wrong way and, in most (or many) cases, the "good enough" way. Say the trailer (with attached chains) was a U-Haul rental. You're not going to cut that chain, are you?

But what do I know?

--snip whiney s*it --

So, are you gonna hang around and take it?

You could always go somewhere else where they will respect your opinions/feelings/attitude.

technomaNge

"Steve B" on Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:55:58

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Okay, note to self: "skip the shackle, get the dual clevis pin" but that 50 cent carabineer to hold the extra out of the sounds useful.

No kidding! Hell, a decent welder can cut chain with a lousy 'Solid-Ox' torch without damaging the other links.

Except for over extended egos. There is no safe way to move them! ;-)

Luckily, you are only speaking about yourself.

I find I use the angle grinder with a cutting blade a lot more than the smoke wrench these days. Easier to move to the part to cut. And since I deal a lot in aluminum, the smoke wrench is only used to heat up a thick part before welding.

And what do you use old cable for?

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Do you cut aluminum with your angle grinder too?

i

Indeed. Not only to hold the useless end of a too long chain (with which I agree), but to give cause for idiots to find fault with a good idea. Some of these guys would whine if they were hung with a new rope.

Harold

yes. You can either buy aluminum or metal grinding disks. Difference is the Aluminum ones have some wax imbedded to prevent loading up. the angle grinder with a metal cutting disk works fine. I use it on small pieces, or cutting loose some welded part I do not care for. Bigger jobs and not precision needed I use a Sawzall. Making rack for my Kayaks out of old extension ladders presently. Used the Sawzall to section the ladder. 18 tooth blade.

You can trust that Steve B knows what he's running his yap about (by way of keyboard).. and to add to the long list of areas he's expert in, how about a water witcher?

He just hasn't had the time to go claim that million dollar prize for being able to reliably detect underground water with a couple of wires, twigs etc.

Oh, and apparently there's yet another area of expertise for him.. destroying his health.

"Harold & Susan Vordos" on Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:47:00 GMT typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Well, they are kind of scratchy. Unless you're using the nylon ...

Nylon? What about 'Don't ask, Don't tell'? ;-)

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