am looking for any magazines that deal with pro/e (hints, tips and <BR>how-to
articles). Something I could receive in the mail would be fine, <BR>but
on-line magazines would be fine also. Anyone have any
suggestions?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR>Mr.B</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<DIV>This magazine used to be a mainstay, don't know if it's still around:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.profilesmagazine.com /">http://www.profilesmagazine.com /</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Connect Press sponsors a website for the Pro/e community, including some of
the stuff you mentioned:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.proe.com/featuretocall.php ">http://www.proe.com/featuretocall.php </A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bart Brejcha and Design-engine have a pretty lively site with training,
some publishing:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.design-engine.com /">http://www.design-engine.com /</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In truth, though, it seems that magazine publishing on Pro/e has gone
bankrupt. All that I can find are web sites. However, there are many other
resources on Pro/e. Below is a FAQ answering "Where can I get help, training and
support on Pro/e?"</DIV>
<DIV>_________________</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoBodyText>For help with Pro/e, start with this. It's the user area of
the PTC website which has several free introductory tutorials on WF &
WF2:<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
/><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.ptc.com/community/proewf2/newtools/index.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.ptc.com/community/proewf2/newtools/index.htm </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>The three listed below provide professional training
courses on every function within Pro/e, including on Intralink PDM. All offer
project-based, hands-on training. CADTRAIN is strictly CBT, everything online,
downloadable training files, Camtasia based demos, onscreen tutorials with
screen captured graphics.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>CADquest,
on the other hand, is <SPAN class=GramE>textbook</SPAN> based with downloadable
training files.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Those from CADTRAIN and CADquest are full, PTC-style
courses and parallel PTC's course structure. Frotime, which also does CBT, has
shorter, more partial tutorial style training. They're approaching course
structure by offering several tutorials on the same functionality, such as
Surfacing 1, 2, & 3 and Advanced Surfacing 1, 2, & 3. With each costing
around $15 and a Surfacing Subscription (6-8 tutorials) costing $60, they have
pricing structure suited to invididuals who don't have corporate resources
behind them. In addition, about one into course in each series is
free.<o:p></o:p></P>
<H1>CADTRAIN<o:p></o:p></H1>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.cadtrain.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.cadtrain.com /</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList>CADquest<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.cadquest.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.cadquest.com /</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList>Frotime<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.frotime.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.frotime.com /</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Community Colleges and Universities: PTC has an extensive
network of schools that either train students in Pro/e software or use it to
teach drafting/modelling/engineering/design. If you know of such a chool, they
likely have an Educational License which lets them offer any course taught by
PTC. Here's a peek at the educational version and what it
contains:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.ptc.com/appserver/mkt/educational/program.jsp?& ;im_dbkey=33880&icg_dbkey=851"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.ptc.com/appserver/mkt/educational/program.jsp?& ;im_dbkey=33880&icg_dbkey=851</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>It has the advantage of spreading what would normally <SPAN
class=GramE>be a 40 hour sprint</SPAN> through<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>a</SPAN> ton of new material over an 8-12
week period. <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
/><st1:place>Lot</st1:place>'s more
opportunity to get<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>comfortable</SPAN> with the software and
likely new concepts of design, lots more tube<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>time</SPAN> and time to ask questions of
an experienced user. It's where I got most of my<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>formal</SPAN> training; I highly
recommend it.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Numerous books, one by Roger Toogood, another by L. G. Lamit
and several<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE>specifically</SPAN> on sheetmetal with WF2.
All available on Amazon for under $60, they<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE>provide</SPAN> a good, broad overview of
working with WF2. All by professional writers<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>and</SPAN> teachers. Lamit, for example,
has been teaching Pro/e for over a decade at De<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Anza</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType>College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>,
<st1:place><st1:City>Cupertino</st1:City> <st1:State>CA</st1:State></st1:place>
(<st1:place>Silicon Valley</st1:place>) and has written several books
on<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Pro/e. Toogood's authored most of the Student Edition
Tutorials since I-squared at<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>least</SPAN>. These guys know
Pro/e.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Student Edition from Journey Ed:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://proestudent.com/default.asp?action=selectLocation "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://proestudent.com/default.asp?action=selectLocation </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>for</SPAN> $150, you get the Flex3C
version of the software ($20,000 retail value), help<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>files</SPAN> and one of the above books
on CD with training files in SE format. Pro/e was<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>the</SPAN> first, and for a while, the
only major player in solids modelling, with a<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Student Edition of the program plus a longstanding,
comprehensive training program<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>accessible</SPAN> from the SE. On your
own PC, with complete autonomy, you have full access to the entire power of
Pro/ENGINEER design software. And most PCs, with a decent, OpenGL-compatible
graphics card, can do the job.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><st1:place><st1:PlaceName>PTC</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A href="http://www.ptc.com/learning "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.ptc.com/learning </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Don't underestimate learning it straight "from the <SPAN
class=GramE>horses</SPAN> mouth". Don't know what<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>it</SPAN> takes to sign up for this,
probably a year's maintenance/support agreement,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>paid</SPAN> in advance. Still, if you've
got it, this is a valuable resource: what you'd<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>get</SPAN> in a class, no travel
involved, all you need is a terminal with pro: complete,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>comprehensive</SPAN>, convenient. Sit at
home and learn from PTC. I think this is<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>extremely</SPAN> cool. Just like their
webcasts, 'How to' and 'Tips and Tricks' sessions.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>PTC offers, directly, and indirectly supports, more
educational and training<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE>opportunities</SPAN> than any other
corporation on earth. The user community lags<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE>pitifully</SPAN> behind; not much in the
way of free, user developed tutorials and<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>training</SPAN> resources available out
there. I've heard of some university stuff; also,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>some</SPAN> stuff on websites, but most
is out of date, scattered, fragmentary, partial elements of a comprehensive
training program, and, of this, the community offers nothing.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>PTC/USER Email 'Exploder'<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A href="http://www.ptcuser.org/exploder/index.html "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.ptcuser.org/exploder/index.html </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P
>
<P class=MsoBodyText>ProECentral has an active colllection of
forums<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.proecentral.com/portal/forum/default.asp "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.proecentral.com/portal/forum/default.asp </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Engineering Tips has a forum <SPAN
class=GramE>for each
major CAD software</SPAN>, including Pro/e<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.eng-tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/22/lev3/70/pid/554 "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.eng-tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/22/lev3/70/pid/554 </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A href="http://www.mcaduser.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.mcaduser.com /</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Also called Pro/e User, this site is a collection of useful
links plus a download<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>site</SPAN> with, as are most, outdated
files. Would be nice if they actually (whoever<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>'<SPAN class=GramE>they</SPAN>' are) tried to develop this
thing. For example, they've got a list of sites<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>called</SPAN> "Companies that use Pro/e".
The list is lame: extremely partial and highly<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><SPAN class=GramE>incomplete</SPAN>, missing big users in
many areas. If they decided to be a little more active, open, and responsible,
they'd enlist the help of actual Pro/e Users to correct their list so that it
could be a valuable and reliable resource.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/pro_engineer/tutorials_proe.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/pro_engineer/tutorials_proe.htm </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A href="http://www.synthx.com/tom/sy_tips.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.synthx.com/tom/sy_tips.htm </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.elite-consulting.com/pro_engineer%20hints%20tips%20tricks.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.elite-consulting.com/pro_engineer%20hints%20tips%20tricks.htm </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.3dlogix.com/3dlogix/3dlogix_tutorials_01_proetfiles.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">http://www.3dlogix.com/3dlogix/3dlogix_tutorials_01_proetfiles.htm </SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Here's one suggested by Michael Corbett; though it's not
tutorials, it is resources <A href="http://www.cadregister.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.cadregister.com</SPAN></A>
Part of thomasregister.com has models as well.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>David Janes<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoBodyText>Thanks for taking the time, David.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>A few more (maybe useful) <SPAN class=GramE>links
...</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList>http:/<SPAN class=GramE>/ ....</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A
href="http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/pro_engineer/tutorials_proe.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.caddigest.com/subjects/pro_engineer/tutorials_proe.htm</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A
href="http://www.staffs.ac.uk/~entdgc/WildfireDocs/tutorials.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.staffs.ac.uk/~entdgc/WildfireDocs/tutorials.htm</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A
href="http://www.me.uvic.ca/~mech410/proe_tutorials.html "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.me.uvic.ca/~mech410/proe_tutorials.html</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.cad-resources.com/index.html "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.cad-resources.com/index.html</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
class=MsoList>technology.calumet.purdue.edu/met/tickoo/faculty/proe/proe-wf/proe-wf.htm<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.imakenews.com/ptcexpress /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.imakenews.com/ptcexpress/</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.profilesmagazine.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.profilesmagazine.com/</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoList><A href="http://www.proefaq.com /"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.proefaq.com/</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Sheet Metal<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.cod.edu/people/faculty/wielgos/shtml/cadd275.pdf "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.cod.edu/people/faculty/wielgos/shtml/cadd275.pdf</SPAN></A><o:p
></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText>Advanced Assy<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.cod.edu/people/faculty/wielgos/adv_asm/index_273.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.cod.edu/people/faculty/wielgos/adv_asm/index_273.htm</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.cadquest.com/books/pdf/w2_draw_options.pdf "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.cadquest.com/books/pdf/w2_draw_options.pdf</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p
></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText><A
href="http://www.ptc.com/for/education/college_list.htm "><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">www.ptc.com/for/education/college_list.htm</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></P
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