ProE Won't Start

Hello All,
I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro loaded on it. My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and using my
PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license.
I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new notebook, no problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on the new notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes away. It acts as if there is no license but I've transferred the network card that the license should be looking for.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Brian
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My best guess would be that the nic has a new MAC address, from what I understand this is what proe license file is looking for
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No, I am using the old nic card from the old notebook. If I stick it back in the old unit ProE starts right up. It's when I insert the nic in the XP notebook ProE won't start, at least only up to the splash screen.
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Use ipconfig to check the mac address on both the old and new computers and make sure they're the same. There are other places besides the nic that it can pick up the mac address, for example, the cpu. Do pcmcia cards require some setup or are they plug n' play?
David Janes
wrote: : > : > > Hello All, : > > : > >I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro loaded on : it. : > >My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and using my : > >PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license. : > > : > >I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new notebook, : no : > >problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on the new : > >notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes away. It : acts : > >as if there is no license but I've transferred the network card that the : > >license should be looking for. : > > : > >Any ideas? : > > : > >Thanks : > > : > >Brian : > > : > : :
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Hi David, I did try that and the mac address shows up on both as the only ethernet address on the systems. Actually I didn't think that it would install if the address was wrong. This is an early release of 2001, meaning I got it just as it was released. I am concerned that it won't run on XP. But it shouldn't have loaded as I know it goes through hardware checks and software checks during installation.
I'm stumped.
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In the new notebook, does it have a built in ethernet card? If so, make sure it is disabled in the BIOS. Pro is very vulnerable to nic conflicts and will oftentimes use an id which is completely alien if there is a conflict because of 2 cards being present. Open up a DOS window and run \Program Files\proe2001\bin\cpu_id.bat which will return the host id, or from the run in the start menu or from windows explorer run \Program Files\proe2001\bin\ptcsetup.bat and the host id will appear at the bottom. If this is different than the id that is returned in ipconfig then you have some kind of conflict in cards. Hope this helps. Nick

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Hi Nick, The notebook has only the NIC card that I have installed, and I ran the ipconfig /all command and then the ptcsetup.bat to check the IP hardware address, as well as the host name. All matches up as it should. I'm totally baffled. I've tried reinstalling the program a few times but can't get past the splash screen on this notebook. What is so odd is I can start it up fine on the old notebook when the NIC card is switched.
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do you have a cable in the network card? is it connected to a network. I know this has been an issue with some of the installations of proE I have done in the past. I don't have time to look it up, but it might have something to do with ethersense. You might have to disable it. also, did you reinstall proE or just copy it over? to help diagnosing, is it a floating license, or can you get access to one? if you can use this license it will tell you whether it is a license error, or a ProE installation error cheers Craig
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I've tried it connected to the network and not connected with the same results. I don't have access to a floating network license. ProE has been completely reinstalled several times today actually. What is ethersense? I've never heard about that.

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Ethersense is a stupid bit of windows programming on laptops that shuts off a network card if there is no Ethernet installed on it Also (dredging memory here) do you have dial up networking on your computer? if so remove it, and then re-install it. this will make sure that the Mac address that proE is accessing is the network card, not the dial-up networking. Also try a search on googlegroups
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.cad.pro-eng ineer for anything we haven't thought of yet cheers Craig

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are you running XP home or professional ? Did this laptop have winblows 98 loaded prior to this ? you may have a system variable set that pro thinks your running a 98 flavor and you loaded an NT flavor. Which explains the splash screen and than nothing.
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No this is a new notebook with XP Pro factor loaded.
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: > : > > Hello All, : > > : > >I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro
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: it. : > >My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and
using
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: > >PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license. : > > : > >I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new
notebook,
: no : > >problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on
the
new
: > >notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes
away.
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: acts : > >as if there is no license but I've transferred the network
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I have to agree with Boltman about checking the environment variable. The retailer could have upgraded the computer from 98 or ME without your knowing it.
So, just for laughs, go to the Control Panel, and find the System tool (or if it's set to Category View, first pick Performance and Maintenance). Click the Advanced tab. At the bottom, click the Environment Variables button. Scroll to the bottom of the System Variables list. There should a Windir with a value of C:\Windows. There should be no variable called Winbootdir. This variable makes our poor, simple $30k program think that it's a non-NT system. So, if you find this variable, delete it, then reinstal Pro/e as an NT instal. The installer should automatically recognize it as such when it installs and show NT as the system on the first or second installation page, where you pick the options to instal. You should, prior to this, have placed the license file in an easily accessible place, likek the root of C:\ so that you can point the installer to it when it asks for the file. But, even if there's a license problem, it should at least start. And, if there's a license problem you'll get a FlexLM error number in a message box and a description of the problem. The only 'blinking off' that I'm acquainted with happens as Boltman said, when it's loading non-NT code on an NT system.
David Janes
: : wrote: : : : > : : > > Hello All, : : > > : : > >I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro : : loaded : : on : : : it. : : > >My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and : : using : : my : : : > >PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license. : : > > : : > >I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new : : notebook, : : : no : : > >problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on : : the : : new : : : > >notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes : : away. : : It : : : acts : : > >as if there is no license but I've transferred the network : : card : : that : : the : : : > >license should be looking for. : : > > : : > >Any ideas? : : > > : : > >Thanks : : > > : : > >Brian : : > > : : > : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
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Hi David, I did as you have suggested, it is C:\Windows for the windir value. This is a Dell Inspiron notebook anyway so I'm pretty sure they would have installed XP Pro from the get go. I spoke to PTC and they said that I have another problem, that it's not a license issue. But of course as I don't have a maintenance contract I can't get any other information from them.
Grrrrr...

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Are you logged on as an administrator.&nbsp; Pro chokes at the splash screen if you don't have admin rights. </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: NoSpam [<A =
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Posted At: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:03 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Posted To: comp.cad.pro-engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Conversation: ProE Won't Start</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: ProE Won't Start</FONT> </P> <BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hi David,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>I did as you have suggested, it is C:\Windows for the windir value. This is a Dell Inspiron notebook anyway so I'm pretty sure they would have installed XP Pro from the get go. I spoke to PTC and they said that I have another problem, that it's not a license issue. But of course as I don't have a maintenance contract I can't get any other information from them.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Grrrrr...</FONT> </P>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt; Hello All,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : loaded</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : it.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : using</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : my</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : notebook,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : no</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : new</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : away.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : It</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : acts</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;as if there is no license but I've transferred the network</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : card</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;license should be looking for.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Any ideas?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Brian</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : : &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; : :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT> </P>
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Re: ProE Won't StartI'm logged in as my user that I gave administrator rights to, but I logged in as administrator to try it as XP could be doing something goofy. But even the administrator login chokes after the splash screen.
I tried the NIC in my Windows 2000 machine again and tried two different users that have administrator rights and it started fine. So I still am at a loss.
I installed ProE under my account that has administrator rights, so I would imagine that it wouldn't have installed if I didn't have sufficient rights.
size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt; Hello All,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : loaded</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : on</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : it.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : using</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : my</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : notebook,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : no</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : new</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : away.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : It</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : acts</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;as if there is no license but I've transferred the network</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : card</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : that</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;license should be looking for.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Any ideas?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Brian</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt;</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Re: ProE Won't StartWell I have made some progress, I restarted in safe mode with networking and then ProE started (640 x 480 yuck). So now I need to figure out what's running in normal mode that ProE doesn't like. I'm almost afraid to find out.
Any suggestions on what may be the culprit now that we know that it will run?
size=2>&gt; : wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt; Hello All,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;I have just purchased a new notebook that has Windows XP Pro</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : loaded</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : on</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : it.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;My old notebook has Windows 2000 Pro. I'm using ProE 2001 and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : using</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : my</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;PCMCIA network card as the hardware address for the license.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;I installed the network card from my old notebook into the new</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : notebook,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : no</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;problems all works as it should. But when I installed ProE on</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : new</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;notebook it will only get to the splash screen and then goes</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : away.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : It</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : acts</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;as if there is no license but I've transferred the network</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : card</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : that</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;license should be looking for.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Any ideas?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;Brian</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : : &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; : :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; :</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt;</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Hmm, now it sounds like a graphical problem for this to happen? For giggles, boot up using the the generic vga driver and if that works, use a different graphics driver?
And, since you are there, have you checked/compared network services being used? It could be a conflict with a network service? Maybe, uninstall the network services, reboot and re-install them?
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That's what I said 24 hours ago at the bottom of this thread. It will be the graphics drivers.
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Hi David, Actually I didn't see your post as my internet provider, Road Runner does a terrible job with the "comp" news groups. Half the time I don't see my original post so I repost it and then get yelled at ;-)
It ended being a setting for the Open GL drivers. I got a hold of NVIDIA as that's the card that I have (and is recommended on the PTC web site) explained my problem and they told me to set the "Buffer-Ripping Mode" to "Use block transfer" so what ever that means it starts now.
I thank all of you for the great help.
Regards Brian

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