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- posted 18 years ago
After hearing CT screech in horror over a $300 lens I selected this one
at random:
at random:
Camera lens affordability
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- posted 18 years ago
And, of course, it took me a few seconds to comprehend the meaning of
this line in the ad:
"This innovative construction helps make the lens a popular choice for rental houses."
David Erbas-White (hmm, why would I buy such an expensive lens if I'm renting a house to someone... Couldn't I just use a throwaway camera for the listing?)
"This innovative construction helps make the lens a popular choice for rental houses."
David Erbas-White (hmm, why would I buy such an expensive lens if I'm renting a house to someone... Couldn't I just use a throwaway camera for the listing?)
- posted 18 years ago
They sell "for rent lenses" (that Chris cannot afford) to makers of
commercials, movies, TV, documentaries, and corporate videos).
- posted 18 years ago
Yes, that's what I meant when I said it took me a few moments to figure
it out...
David Erbas-White
David Erbas-White
- posted 18 years ago
David, I have been humor impaired ever since I stopped attrending
Frank's photo shoots.
- posted 18 years ago
Excuse me. I screeched in horror over a $1350.00 LENS !! IE MORE THAN THE
CAMERA
$300 is what I was "seeking"
Chris Taylor
$300 is what I was "seeking"
Chris Taylor
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- posted 18 years ago
Then this one ought to slightly get your attention :)
> > $300 is what I was "seeking" > > Chris Taylor >
> > After hearing CT screech in horror over a $300 lens I selected this one > > at random: > > > >
> > $300 is what I was "seeking" > > Chris Taylor >
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> > After hearing CT screech in horror over a $300 lens I selected this one > > at random: > > > >
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- posted 18 years ago
exactly why I did not even load the page :-)
Chris Taylor
Chris Taylor
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- posted 18 years ago
Then wait until you realize you missed a decimal point! It's THOUSANDs, not
HUNDREDs
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
- posted 18 years ago
I got theived by Minolta on the repair of one of my $800 Rokkor
lenses.......I'll never deal with the creeps again. A $300 lens doesn't
have a lot of glass in it, and that's what they replaced it with. It
was a piece of trash. Price *usually* equates to quality. Usually.
Chuck
Chuck
- posted 18 years ago
I missed nothing. the one who replied to me quoted $1350 for some 400mm
lens.
Not sure what your referring to.
Chris Taylor
Not sure what your referring to.
Chris Taylor
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- posted 18 years ago
How about an 800mm f5.6? B&H is a good dealer to work with, and their
disount on this lens is huge!
They carry dozens of lenses in the $5,000+ range. It's not unusual at all for good glass to cost a lot more than the body that it's being attached to.
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(watch the line wrap)They carry dozens of lenses in the $5,000+ range. It's not unusual at all for good glass to cost a lot more than the body that it's being attached to.
- posted 18 years ago
I am seeing that now. is their an affordable f2.8 400mm lens availagle ?
I really need the F2.8 since I have to use 1/1000 or better shutter speed at iso 100 (anything higher is less desirable since it adds noise)
Chris Taylor
> > They carry dozens of lenses in the $5,000+ range. It's not unusual at > all for good glass to cost a lot more than the body that it's being > attached to. > > -- > Mike KD7PVT > NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ SeaNAR - The Seattle NAR Section #568 > NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net. >
I really need the F2.8 since I have to use 1/1000 or better shutter speed at iso 100 (anything higher is less desirable since it adds noise)
Chris Taylor
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> > They carry dozens of lenses in the $5,000+ range. It's not unusual at > all for good glass to cost a lot more than the body that it's being > attached to. > > -- > Mike KD7PVT > NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ SeaNAR - The Seattle NAR Section #568 > NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net. >
- posted 18 years ago
I wish! I do piggy-back astrophotography with an ancient Pentax K-1000
and would LOVE a good, affordable f2.8 400mm.
The biggest f2.8 I could afford was a 125mm, and it vignettes so badly that
I have to digitally correct the scanned images.
My 400mm is an f5.6 aftermarket cheapo that only makes a decent image at f8
and then only over about 20% of the frame. Image enhancement, again.
Paint Shop Pro; don't try cheap astrophotography without it. ;)
and would LOVE a good, affordable f2.8 400mm.
The biggest f2.8 I could afford was a 125mm, and it vignettes so badly that
I have to digitally correct the scanned images.
My 400mm is an f5.6 aftermarket cheapo that only makes a decent image at f8
and then only over about 20% of the frame. Image enhancement, again.
Paint Shop Pro; don't try cheap astrophotography without it. ;)
- posted 18 years ago
Yes, there are several 'affordable' ones, but you definitely wouldn't
like the amount of distortion, chromatic aberration, and lack of
sharpness.
If you're looking for a *usable* 400mm/f2.8 you'd better be prepared to shell out more than the camera...much more...much closer to what your laptop cost you.
If you're looking for a *usable* 400mm/f2.8 you'd better be prepared to shell out more than the camera...much more...much closer to what your laptop cost you.
- posted 18 years ago
This one looks pretty affordable:
Good lenses cost real money. I worked my way through college working at a camera store, so I know of what I speak. I couldn't believe how much the quality of my photos improved when I moved from Pentax gear to Nikon due to the quality of the Nikkor glass. I also had Leica stuff for a while; the image quality was superior to the Nikon stuff, but not enough for me to justify the additional cost. I finally decided to jettison 35mm altogether, and now use a Mamiya 645 system for important stuff (like family celebrations and portraits), and a digital camera for snapshot stuff.
A suggestion: buy a cheap used 645 (Bronica, Pentax, or Mamiya) and use it with 400 ISO film; a body with 70-80mm prime lens can be had for less than $500 on eBay. It'll kick the ass of your 35mm stuff at 100 ISO, and you can go to slower film stocks when you don't need the higher shutter speed.
James
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Affordable, of course, is a relative term. $2,495 for a 300mm f2.8
prime lens is a bargain, especially when you consider that a Nikon or
Canon equivalent is probably going to run ~$1,000 more. (Don't even
ask what a similar Leica lens will run!)Good lenses cost real money. I worked my way through college working at a camera store, so I know of what I speak. I couldn't believe how much the quality of my photos improved when I moved from Pentax gear to Nikon due to the quality of the Nikkor glass. I also had Leica stuff for a while; the image quality was superior to the Nikon stuff, but not enough for me to justify the additional cost. I finally decided to jettison 35mm altogether, and now use a Mamiya 645 system for important stuff (like family celebrations and portraits), and a digital camera for snapshot stuff.
A suggestion: buy a cheap used 645 (Bronica, Pentax, or Mamiya) and use it with 400 ISO film; a body with 70-80mm prime lens can be had for less than $500 on eBay. It'll kick the ass of your 35mm stuff at 100 ISO, and you can go to slower film stocks when you don't need the higher shutter speed.
James
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- posted 18 years ago
Of course, it also depends on the exact lens. If you want to talk
35mm- some Nikkor lenses are pretty crummy - others are as good as you
can get, Zeiss and Leica included. In any case, good lenses cost very
serious dollars, and you generally get what you pay for + "brag factor"
(large for Zeiss and Leica, moderate for Nikon).
Brett
Brett
- posted 18 years ago
What's the 'brag factor' for my house-brand lens from Ritz cameras???
I sold an old manual camera set a couple of years back, and in going through and inventorying everything, found some 'house' lens that were completely destroyed due to outgassing of the adhesives in the lenses. Granted, I hadn't even looked at them in 10-20 years, but I was surprised nonetheless. My 'name brand' (read: Pentax manfactured) lenses were still in good shape.
David Erbas-White
I sold an old manual camera set a couple of years back, and in going through and inventorying everything, found some 'house' lens that were completely destroyed due to outgassing of the adhesives in the lenses. Granted, I hadn't even looked at them in 10-20 years, but I was surprised nonetheless. My 'name brand' (read: Pentax manfactured) lenses were still in good shape.
David Erbas-White
- posted 18 years ago
Ahhh... now you see why people spend big bucks on good digital SLRs.
A $3000 camera body looks cheap compared to a $6000 lens :)
A high quality camera body like the Canon 1D can give you excellent results at ISO 800 or even ISO 1600, which means you can shoot with a 400mm f4 or f5.6 at 1/3000+ in decent outdoor conditions.
There is no free lunch in terms of light gathering ability.
Big bucks for a large sensor in the camera body means great high ISO performance which means you can shoot outdoors at high shutter speeds without breaking the bank with $6000 lenses.
Of course, shallow depth of field at long telephoto lengths is very desirable for sports shooting which is why the pros pay for both.
Too many people get carried away with megapixel counting with digital cameras. Pixels are not all created equal. The sensor in the Canon 1D (with only 4.1 MP), is close to 5 times bigger than that found in the consumer level cameras with 5+ MP. This is why those cameras have terrible noise problems at anything greater than ISO 100 or maybe ISO 200.
Best cheap rocket photo rig? An old used film SLR, cheap telephoto - probably 100-300mm, and Fuji 800 film. Shoot at around 1/2000 or faster if possible for quick rockets.
- Marc
Klinger Photography
A high quality camera body like the Canon 1D can give you excellent results at ISO 800 or even ISO 1600, which means you can shoot with a 400mm f4 or f5.6 at 1/3000+ in decent outdoor conditions.
There is no free lunch in terms of light gathering ability.
Big bucks for a large sensor in the camera body means great high ISO performance which means you can shoot outdoors at high shutter speeds without breaking the bank with $6000 lenses.
Of course, shallow depth of field at long telephoto lengths is very desirable for sports shooting which is why the pros pay for both.
Too many people get carried away with megapixel counting with digital cameras. Pixels are not all created equal. The sensor in the Canon 1D (with only 4.1 MP), is close to 5 times bigger than that found in the consumer level cameras with 5+ MP. This is why those cameras have terrible noise problems at anything greater than ISO 100 or maybe ISO 200.
Best cheap rocket photo rig? An old used film SLR, cheap telephoto - probably 100-300mm, and Fuji 800 film. Shoot at around 1/2000 or faster if possible for quick rockets.
- Marc
Klinger Photography
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- posted 18 years ago
But that 3000 dollar body is just a box without the lens.
That's me. Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 with a f5.6 300mm Yashica lens. Less than a hundred bucks off Ebay.
That's me. Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 with a f5.6 300mm Yashica lens. Less than a hundred bucks off Ebay.
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