CSI Screw's us

Did anyone see CSI tonight? Nice the bomb was made with AP not good!

Dan McCullough

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Dangerous Dan
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DOJ has consultants on the show. The memos on that wold be an interesting FOIA request.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Yes Jerry I would like to see what they had to do with it.

Dan McCullough

Reply to
Dangerous Dan

It sure would be nice if somebody did some thing about it besides posting on rmr how pissed they are.

Like me making NAR BoT vote requests.

NPRM 968 comments

SB724 language and hundred people long petitions in support of it.

And of course DOT paperwork that is religiously ignored by TRA and NAR!

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I was working on updating my web site. Glad I missed it, it would have made me very upset.

Of course, now I am upset anyway.

art

Reply to
ArtU

CSI is made by a production company and it is sold to CBS network. The producers would have had word approval and would have hired the consultants.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

OK, I'l call and mail my local CBS station and mail/email CBS corporate about their lie.

who were the advertisers on the show tonight, anybody remember ?

We can complain to them. Works better then complaining to CBS.

Reply to
ArtU

I bet one of their "technical consultants" is/was with ATF.

Reply to
RayDunakin

Not only did they claim it was AP, but after calling it ammonium perchlorate for a bit, they referred to it as "rocket fuel" for the rest of the show.

Here's my question... if you fill a foot-long 3/4" pipe with powdered AP, put in a light bulb filament as your ignition source, and toss it into the gas tank of a car... when 12vdc is applied to the light bulb, will the car produce a nice thunderous "Hollywood" explosion? With the trouble I've had getting AP motors to light with Copperheads, I can't imagine a light bulb filament will do anything. But, they made some reference to the gasoline and the AP getting together to create a highly sensitive explosive. What say you?

Reply to
Scott Aleckson

Let's duplicate the conditions. I have a test site, way too much AP and plenty of gasoline and a bunch of friends that love blowing shit up (purely for work and science of course). Join me.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Jerry, I don't know which term to use to describe you..."whiny" doens't seem quite strong enough, and "bitchey" doesn't even begin to convey the way you make it seem like nobody on RMR is doing anything good for the hobby and that you are a god among rocketeers. Now I don't really have anything against you other than the fact that it seems like everytime you post a reply you somehow seem condescending to just about everyone. Randy D Co-Prez, SoJARS

Reply to
NeoF14

I admit it. I have been conditioned by 10 years of abuse by TRA and NAR.

Fix them. Fix me.

EZ

No I am not going away.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Doubt it... you might be able to make some sort of explosion with just about any _mixture_ of a solid oxidizer and a liquid fuel (suitably ignited and confined), but from the description you gave (sealed pipe full of pure AP in tank of liquid) it almost sounds like they were trying for something "Hollywood-plausible" that _wouldn't_ actually work if anyone attempted to take the details from the show literally as a "description of how to make a bomb"...

(It doesn't matter if it wouldn't actually work; the "perchlorate" was probably talcum powder, intentionally mislabeled by the props department - and the "nice thunderous Hollywood explosion" in the script was, of course, to be produced by some nice thunderous Hollywood "special effects" pyro charges anyway.)

-dave w

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David Weinshenker

Glad im not in the states... course we cant have anything that shoots lead, but we can have eeevil firecrackers thats been "known" by the US agencies to blow off fingers and stuff, and roman candles that shoots fireballs! Ever held a roman candle when its lit? its like shooting .22 rifles...

Reply to
tai fu

David Weinshenker wrote in news:3FD96C78.7FD72A1 @earthlink.net:

Black powder and naphthalene is the usual Hollywood mixture that you are referring to if I'm not mistaken. It doesn't usually sound thunderous though, so they sound FX crew adds that in. Sounds more like a big Whoosh than a concussive blast.

I'm wondering if they confused AP with (something). I didn't see the show either, but I recall some old mobster trick of filling a ping pong ball with (something) and just letting time run its course. Good luck fitting a ping pong ball down into the fuel tank these days. Can't even siphon gas with a garden hose anymore :(

Reply to
BrundlFly

Randy, Glad it's not just me. Seems every thread gets hijacked by Jerry so he can continue his rants against NAR (I am not a member of TRA so I will not comment about his TRA comments). I just started visiting this forum and initially his rants were entertaining but now they are tiring as he just seems to cut and paste from a set script. I am not finding that my time may be better spent at another forum such as rocketryonline where I do not have to wade through such whining to get to interesting information. Don Hooker NAR #72049

Reply to
Don Hooker

Plain AP is used in a simple binary, commercial composition known as Kinestick. Look it up. Save your AP for more constructive purposes. :-)

Anthony J. Cesaroni President/CEO Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace

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Anthony Cesaroni

David,

It doesn't matter if it works or not. They got the public thinking it does!

Dan McCullough

Reply to
Dangerous Dan

They did not say it was made entirely of AP. They simply said they found traces of AP on the pipe fragments. As soon as the "technician" mentioned the trace AP, the investigator chimed in "Rocket Fuel?". I cringed as soon as I heard that and knew I'd be reading threads about it this morning. Also, the "bomb" was not dropped into the gas tank of the car. Magnets were attached to the pipe bomb and it was stuck to the outside of the gas tank.

I agree that it just sounds like a move to drive fear into the public that rocketeers can and will do a lot more with "rocket fuel" than just launch rockets. We're all just sinister...some more than others.

Reply to
Chuck Neff

Adding to this fearmongering was the "coincidence" that the bomb actually killed a "Homeland Security agent" (federal air marshall).

- Robert

Chuck Neff wrote:

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Robert Galejs

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