[F-FT] I joined TRA

I answered but apparently, you don't feel my opinion is valid. How can you fix a problem that no longer exists.

The Weenie King should have a good one for this.

Some more classics-

Which problem no longer exists?

TRA endorsing HPR magazine

HPR magazine being consistently late or missing.

TRA certifying motors contrary to the rules

TRA implementing new rules and regulations criminalizing rocketry.

etc,

but let's see how you ignore these first.

I have faith you will.

Jerry

"Unfortunately, Apple seems to disregard the learning curve, however slight, and the very real trepidation that switching to a totally new type of computer entails for the average user. Most people using PC's are conditioned from Windows itself to be leery of a computer and pretty scared they might "mess it all up." I call it "The Windows Experience." Apple, of course, is comprised mainly of Mac users; people who are used to installing shareware and freeware apps with abandon and chucking them in the Trash routinely. Mac users aren't really scared of computers because Macs rarely have viruses and never suddenly cease all activity to announce they need xyz123q.dll, demand insertion of the original disk that doesn't exist, or regale them with a beautiful blue screen. Windows users, average people, not geeks, are more scared of their computers than most people, especially Apple's Mac people, seem to realize."

- Steve Jack

"Yea, I realized what I said after I sent the post, but I figured no one would catch the error. I guess I was wrong"

-Fred Wallace

The POINT of posting that is similar to the POINT of Kaplow posting, "I am always lying".

It is a logical conundrum.

I for one am willing to realize you missed the intellectual point.

You may be stupid and also uneducated. I can live with that.

Jerry

I've consistently agree with you that HPR is a problem. You don't seem to understand that HPR id NOT owned by TRA. All TRA does is pass the money through to get people a discount off the regular price. That said, I think TRA is working on something that will fix what problems remain.

You haven't convinced me.

Are you on drugs or did you forget to take them?

I guess I am too. Can you explain the intellectual point of this so even Kevin and I can understand?

That is sooo a problem.

Why?

As an additional note, IIRC, in the last couple years, TRA will also only pass on money to HPR when HPR provides an issue to subscribers. for "non delived issues", IIRC TRA has given the option of apply the "non distributed" part of the subscription fund to the legal fund or back to the subscriber. (on an individual basis)

This year's LDRS could bring some other changes to the TRA/HPR relationship. It's been an "going effort" to fix the mess, kind of like JI and the money he owes to individuals and the government!

So Jerry - paid the $40k f> > > >

I may not think much of him, but at least I spell his mname right. Kelly. One "E".

BTW, I've been flying rockets since 1964, just over 4 decades and personally know (or knew) every one you mentioned. I was never a member of RRS nor have I been to Black Rock.

BTW^2, do you have a name, or just a foul mouth?

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

I think not. If you look at all of the promised HPR issues that were never printed, it's a LOT more than $40K that's gone somewhere.

BTW, how much has TRA loaned you to help you pay your bills? IIRC that was a $55K advance to Mr. HPR a few years back. I'll gladly renew my TRA past decade.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

That was supposed to have been paid back in the form of issues not paid for by TRA. It was a few years ago before TRA started sending all subscription money received directly to HPR.

Which as you know, it wasn't.

You miss the point completely. It's totally inappropriate and ILLEGAL for an IRS 501C3 org to be making personal loans to one of its directors.

So now instead of holding money in excrow for product that hasn't been delivered, you're putting the fox in charge of the hen house. NOT the way to fix the problem!

The real reason that Jerry is so POed at Bruce and TRA is that Bruce has conned far more rocketeers out of far more money than Jerry could ever dream of conning them out of. He's jealous.

And *THAT* should be in the FAQ!

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

POINT!

I agree but, we can't change what happened. The money was paid back in the form of issues not charged to TRA. What else can be done? Especially after all this time.

It's not your problem. BTW, it would work the same way with any other mag.

No, we're letting the magazine's owner take full responsiblity for the success or failure of his business. It's no different than if we were offering subscriptions to ER or any other mag.

So you don't think Jerry's inability to cert his illegal motors has even the slightest bearing on his hatred of TRA? Or the fact he got kicked out of TRA due to his waiver "irregularities" at a major launch? How naive are you, Bob?

Almost as naive as you :-)

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)!