On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:30:23 -0600, "Tater Schuld"
My opinion is that all the missiles mentioned in this thread are
better modeling subjects than gravity bombs, and in some cases are
even good PMC candidates. Redstone had a range of about 180 miles. It
was essentially an uprated V2. Thor was more of a clean sheet design
IRBM with a range of about 1000 miles, and it later evolved into the
One of my pet peeves is about the way commentators (including Mr. Jones)
wax so eloquently about the "horrors" of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I
would remind these folks that dropping the bomb on Japan was perhaps the
most humane act in the annals of warfare. These two bombs convinced a
nation prepared to fight to the last man, woman, and/or child that they
just might want to reconsider.
Mr Jones makes the mistake of thinking that the Japanese of WWII had the
same values as we did. Nothing could be further from the truth. The
Japanese Bushido code held that the greatest disgrace one could
experience was to lose or to be captured in battle. A soldier should
kill himself before surrendering, and any soldier (or for that mater,
any civilian) who either surrendered or allowed himself to be captured
was beneath contempt. (Just ask the folks who survived the Bataan death
On researching the subject of the bombing of Hiroshima, I discovered the
diary of a physician who survived the bomb and described the horrible
aftermath. (I don't remember the name of the book, something like
"Hiroshima Diary.") What I found most astonishing was that, even amid
the carnage of a nuclear explosion, this doctor was devestated when the
Emperor announced the surrender. How could he disgrace the Japanese
people this way? Surely this was a mistake!
Look at it another way. The Japanese were a warlike military power
determined to conquer the Pacific and eventually the world and wipe out
all the Yankee Dogs they could in the process. Two nukes later, they
were pacifists who wanted to sell us cars and electronics, and they are
our best buddies in the world.
Condemn the bomb? Thank God for the bomb!
I heard from a teacher in high school that the Japanese were about to
surrender but the USA decided to drop the bombs to scare the Russians....
I kind doubt it because after seeming "The Last Samurai" I think most
Japanese soldiers would rather kill themselves than surrender in battle.
Imp not sure if Taiwan being liberated from Japan is a good thing, some old
generation said that we owe our higher education standards to the Japanese,
and they said the KIT messed it up cause of the 228 incident...
Nuclear tragedy? Poor taste?
Would he rather they make models of incendiary bombs? Aircraft
carriers? How about that marvel of engineering known as the machine
War is a horror of death and tragedy, the rest is just difference in
delivery. The a-bombs were simply efficient at delivering that horror,
because make no mistake, in one form or another that horror was coming.
Not only that, the Japanese Themselves had a nuclear bomb program. They
would not have hesitated to use it on Us. Had we not had the bomb,
invasion of Japan itself was our next step and like You said, "in one
form of another that horror was coming".
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