Of course it could be one. Think how many green onions you could put in one!
Rockets as WMD
Nov 27, 2003
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Well thought out Brian! :-)
The sad (and alarming) thing is, that only makes it subject to ATF regulation. It's still not a "weapon of mass destruction". But nowadays the feds are even applying that term to pipe bombs. :(
Jim Yanik scrawled:
Scott Aleckson wrote in news:1069967852.110209@prawn:
Good! I hope you do hear something back. I know some distributors of educational materials will pay you for finding errors in their materials. Even if you do not get paid for it, I would hope (for their sake) that they at least show some form of appreciation to you and change the errors for future printings.
That's weird - I thought "weapons of mass destruction" referred to large-scale stuff like nuking a city, or large area chem/bio/incendiary attacks... you know, the sort of thing the Allies did to Hiroshima and Dresden and other "enemy" cities during World War 2. I suspect the author of that video presentation was confusing "weapon of mass destruction" and "destructive device".
Was there any law or regulation reference cited for this so-called "official Federal definition"?
-dave w
Chuck Rudy wrote in news:3FC67EA4.5070703 @tradenet.nospam.net:
Quite the contrary as far as the guberment is concerned. A biological attack in which a few people are infected would result in thousands of people going to the doctor that have a cold/flue/allergies resulting in hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills. Terror upon, not only the civilian population, but also upon the almighty dollar (GASP).
bioagents,perhaps
I don't doubt for a moment that there are ways for diseases to be genetically tracked, but as shown with the previous anthrax letters, there was no conclusive evidence on where the anthrax originated for some time. This probably had something to do with the fact that this was a research bio-organism that was militarized (I must mention from previous post again, this is publicly available information.) I'm going from memory here so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this was also the investigator's conclusion?
I must say though, A bio-terrorist attack could be placed in any number of locations, or mediums if you will, to cause wide spread panic and general distress with so many people. Look at what the recent events of the green onion Hepatitis-A, and the black widow grapes has done. I am willing to bet that there are stores of the fruits and vegetables that are perfectly safe and are literally rotting away. I am also willing to bet there has been a VERY large increase in hepatitis lab tests medical bills, and arachnophobics going to the ER claiming spider bite by black widow.
If they don't define it the current practice of "zero tolerance" can be applied and a child's firecracker used for a religious display, currently legal, can be criminalized as a weapon of mass destruction.
Jerry
snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (RayDunakin) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m21.aol.com:
I'm just listing a few options folks here seem to want to overlook. Or do you WANT the gov't to not plan for the 'worst-case' scenarios?
BrundlFly wrote in news:Xns94411BDF82A7Btheflysomecom@207.217.77.205:
JY wrote;
how about just outside the fair? Fire at a slant angle.It wouldn't take long to set up a prepared launchpad/rocket with a timer to trigger it. And you forget we're dealing with fanatic here,some quite willing to commit suicide to kill a few of us.
Besides,infectious bio agents like anthrax can be passed on to others that come into close contact with the infected one.All that's needed is transfer of enough spores.
Yes,like we have "fingerprints" of all the foreign countries bioagents. right...
Their plans would include bans...
here use this, three shots off before you touch your launcher, with accuracy, silence and from a distance.......I doubt they'd use these particular assistants though
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Then why doesn't he just walk into the fair and start spreading the stuff? Why bother with a delivery system when he has himself? This guy is dead from stupidity or long before he gets to the fair. Now which is it? Rocket or a fanatic willing to kill himself?
each strain of anthrax (that is what you were speaking of correct? or have you opened the field to all bioagents now?) yields it's origin......while no one might know it was weaponized in Pakistan they will know the strain originated from a certain educational institution in whatever country of it began processing in......
I want the government to stop making policy based on FUD, and I want you to stop helping them spread FUD.
How about he fact that BOs could be launched with shotgun shells ?? ok let us start with more realdy avalible items then rockets.
For most backwoods and even city boys, buying a $120 dollar shotgun and doing "reloading " with what you are talking about is more understood then them tring to even fire an alpha III when requested to.
try the test. take a home grown boy and ask him to reload a shot gun or a rocket. I can tell you which he can do quicker.
so Jim, you are spreading FUD as well as much as IZ, it's still FUD none the less.
Please help us, and spread the great word about how good rocketry is ?!!!
please , for only 5 cents per day, you too can help to not spread FUD
"Al Max" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@buckeye-express.com:
I don't believe you know what you're talking about.And you aren't going to get into any fair with a shotgun. What are "BOs",anyways?
You folks seem to have your heads stuck in the sand on this issue.
snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (RayDunakin) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m21.aol.com:
Are you claiming that one could NOT use a MR to spread powdered bioagents over a state fair or other venue? You folks seem rather closed-minded WRT the possibilities.
Please define "FUD" for me,so I have a clear understanding of the term.
But you'll get in with a rocket, pad and launcher? :-D You are starting to crack me up.
Maybe biological organisms?
You left yourself wide open here.......but we have to be kind, after all you *are* a NRA member, right?
....or if you're a backwoods guy with no coin go the $12 route
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-- FUD
/fuhd/ An acronym invented by Gene Amdahl after he left IBM to found his own company: "FUD is the fear, uncertainty, and doubt that IBM sales people instill in the minds of potential customers who might be considering [Amdahl] products." The idea, of course, was to persuade them to go with safe IBM gear rather than with competitors' equipment. This implicit coercion was traditionally accomplished by promising that Good Things would happen to people who stuck with IBM, but Dark Shadows loomed over the future of competitors' equipment or software.
On a technical note, how many people have to be destroyed by a simgle weapon to qualify it as a WMD? I was thinking it might be 1000 or so, but can even two people be a "mass"?
Alan
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