That's One Out Of the Way

Today I made my first certification - NAR L1
PML MiniBBX
24" chute with a 4" spill
Railbuttons launch guidance
Aeropack Quick-Change retainer
Propulsion by Ellis Mountain H50-6.
Little beast screamed off the rail to a calculated Rocksim 2836'
Left the altimeter at home, however, it looked like it was up there to me.
Some high level wind got it today and I had to drive about a half mile to
where I could walk another quarter mile to pick it up.
Special Thanks to BobbyB of Hangar11, Ray Chaubot, and all the folks at
METRA for making this possible.
Next step is the NAR L2 on a PML Quantum Leap / CP3K
Reply to
Al Gloer
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So did you (or anyone) require a LEUP at any point to do this?
Reply to
Jerry Irvine
I worked under the supervision of a rocketeer who had the necessary paperwork to enable me to focus on what I was trying to accomplish. A succesful launch and recovery.
Today it was about the thrill of watching something I did go blazing skyward, and come back to earth safely.
I'll worry about the politics another day.....
Reply to
Al Gloer
So the simple answer is yes someone felt a LE*P was required at some point.
BTW congrats on the flight and the certification.
Sometimes it is procedural not political.
Reply to
Jerry Irvine
Really? Where is it a procedure to be carded for a LEUP before certification? Also whether he had a LEUP or not is none of your bussiness IMHO. It is up to the individual to be squared away as far as I have ever heard. It is not the national model rocket organizations bussiness to police this either.
At least this is what I have always heard/read.
BTW, a big congrats to Al on his Level 1.
Reply to
Greg Cisko
Unless he chooses to share.
I wish people would give me the same consideration.
Reply to
Jerry Irvine
Frontier Rocketry?
Reply to
Jerry Irvine
Congrats big time!
H50... single use?
Ted Novak TRA#5512
Reply to
the notorious t-e-d
Maybe you are not worthy :-)
Reply to
Greg Cisko
Yep, Ellis has quite a few cool single use motors. I'm looking forward to trying out their 29mm I-69.
Reply to
RayDunakin
Does it have CSFM approval?
-dave w
Reply to
David Weinshenker
Nope, at least not yet. :(
Reply to
RayDunakin
Look at the reality.
CTI RCS Ellis AMW Loki Kosdon
NO CSFM. RCS might get it, but keep in mind the market is very thin now and not worht the high fees they charge.
RocketSilo was VERY well capitalized and could not make a go of it.
Same with Black Sky before that.
Good thing you got rid of Jerry for good, eh?
I sugest flying rockets in Oregon, Nevada or Arizona.
Jerry
Reply to
Jerry Irvine
Jerry, CTI has CSFM approvals on their motors. So does AT, and most likely will continue that way under RCS. AMW has said on ROL that they will pursue getting CSFM approvals. I've heard rumors that Ellis is also looking into it.
Irrelevant -- you don't have CSFM-approved motors.
Reply to
RayDunakin
Cesaroni has CA approval for their stuff...
I thought Aerotech had/has their stuff approved?
Does the bankruptcy and reorganization void classification of the previous product line, or does CSFM still consider them to be Registered Fireworks (of the "Model Rocket Engines" or "High Power Rocket Engines" varieties)? To what extent is a company not considered to be the "same [corporate] person", for such regulatory purposes, when it's the same functional entity operating under "new" ownership?
-dave w
Reply to
David Weinshenker
Yea it was SU. Hangar11 has the I69 in stock. It will probably be a dry run motor on my L2 Sudden Rush. I'll use motor ejection of just the main as a test of airworthiness.
My only complaint about the H50 was it has very little fire and not much smoke. Made it a bit difficult to track a 2.6# rocket on a slightly hazy day.
I'm not really whining though, I had a ball.
Reply to
Al Gloer
Do they? Cool.
I think AT fees were just up for repayment. I suspect RCS will seamlessly renew. They are not anal about who's name is on the application like TRA is, only when my product line arrives FROM THE MANUFACTURER.
Jerry
Reply to
Jerry Irvine
I must have been confused when my motors were arbitrarily decertified by TRA with no notice or stated basis :)
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Reply to
Jerry Irvine
What manufacturer? what location do they arrive from? What location do they arrive at?
Reply to
Dave Grayvis
They shouldn't have arbitrarily decertified your motors. Since TRA isn't holding a gun to my head, I want to buy some. Where can I get some? BTW - I'm not in CA so, I don't care about CSFM.
Reply to
Phil Stein

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