What is everyone working on now that its cold and windy?

GFL

Traitor? Who betrayed us by shipping Haznat as Model Aircraft Parts? In doing this, you single handedly proved the ATF's case that we need oversight.

To bad Frank didn't have the luxuary of not living near you.

A LEMP holder named errortech.

:)

You are arguing with a certified moron.

Are you to dense to understand my point? If you are, just tell me & I'll try to explain it in a way you might understand.

Huh?

DOT not ATF and they already have oversight.

And I had papers justifying the action.

YOU are confused.

And the fine is my problem alone. It reflects on nobody else. That is why it is a fine.

Jerry

Obviously any hack can do what they want, where ever they want (until they get caught.) It doesn't matter if they have a LEMP or not. The guy that has jumped through all the LEMP hoops is the only one that will pass TMT requirements to be able to get motors certified. The one with out the LEMP is far less likely to be able to make anything selling motors since they can't be certified. Someone that has gone to all the trouble and expense to get a LEMP is not likely to be making APCP in thier garage. I agree with or without a LEMP, that it's impossible for it to happen.

Wrong. Apartments where kids live & people might be sleeping, were not involved. It was a commercial building. ATF will not give a LEMP for a building where people live so what you previously thight was correct - a LEMP does prevent that from happening.

It would be ok with him because he has something to prove.

You're half right - you don't want to be next to either one. The guy trying to follow the rules is the one that won't get you because he can't get a permit to manufacture in a residence. Remember - my point is about havingn a residence within striking distence of a manufacturer.

In retrospect, the guys in the same building next to AT should have payed more attention to what was happening next door.

The jursdiction of common sense. Ever hear of liability?

Wrong - you have seen the requirements. It's true that they don't every single thing.

Yes, but if you are in the upstairs apartment the difference between 50# and

Philip

Alright Mr. I love government regulations. You can shout that over and over till you are blue, but the reality is very different.

Despite how much you and the BATFE would like for a LEMP to prevent that from happening, it cannot. A LEMP is merely a piece of paper recorded in a ledger. Only COMMON SENSE can prevent these types of tragedies, and you cannot get that via LEMP.

Intelligent people DO NOT endanger other people without their knowledge and permission. LEMP or NO LEMP. They, however, are more likely to get a LEMP.

Uncaring, ignorant people DO endanger other people without their knowledge and permission. LEMP or NO LEMP. They are unlikely to obtain a LEMP.

Each will operate as they would have regardless of possession of a license. A license does not regulate behavior.

Philip

a LEMP does prevent that from happening.> correct - a LEMP does prevent that from happening.

Do not presume yourself worthy of speaking for me. When I need you to speak for me, I'll be sure and tell you where to be and what to say.

Philip

replacement.

I proved that false.

You don't need a permit to make exempt goods or to make goods if you are an exempt person, so the question assumes facts not in evidence.

TRA requirements on EX actively PROMOTE it.

Therefore I am not the dense one.

Nor do I find it helpful to call you names to make my point.

Well, unless I am properly calling you a traitor.

Wrong again.

He lives far away.