Modeling All Jets, Rockets That Flew Before September 1. 1945

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huh? whazzat?
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On Dec 3, 1:06 am, snipped-for-privacy@some.domain wrote:

Dear Friends,
I have a big ambition, that i want a made aeroplane for middle class people. can u help me the basic models and basic design of aeroplanes.
ramakrishna
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I have found two more types I am certain flew before September 1, 1945, the FH-1 Phantom (with one engine and the Bell P-83. ANy resin or vacuform for these two?
Also I suppose the Dehaviland Vampire prototype requires a lot of cutting from the kits of later variants.
Thanks,
Albert Cherer
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:47:03 -0800 (PST), Albert

Wasn't there a CMK resin kit of the earliest mark?
Wulf
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Albert wrote:

Formaplane did an FH-1. I'd swear I remember an XP-83 from somebody in resin. If not, except for the fuselage, most of the plane is similar to the P-59. I believe Vampire prototype had different vertical tails, more like a trapezoid with two right angles on the trailing edge.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
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Anigrand
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Albert wrote:

FH-1 http://www.militarydiecast.com/viewmodel.php?id712
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The McDonnell FH-1 was kitted by MPM as one of their earlier injected kits. The Bell XP-83 was made by KR vacuforms and is now available in resin by Anigrand.
Tom
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" snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com" wrote:

A-HA! The synapses were working correctly.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
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Rufus wrote:

You think you have a problem? I did mine on all the secret, test, and operational German jet and rocket fighter, attack, and recon aircraft in 1/72 scale... including all the designed ones... I finally gave up after filling a book case with them and still needing more. I've got 44 of them now. I didn't want them to get boring so tried to do variations of accurate German camouflage schemes on them that varied in some way from aircraft to aircraft. That became difficult around the time I hit 30. Here's a fun bit of trivia; check out the unpainted upper section on the Ju-287's rudder:
http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/Partners/graphics/X_29/fig02.jpg
You know why that's unpainted? Because that's as high as the guy could reach with his paint sprayer while standing on the tailcone. :-D I did paint the airflow tufts on it originally, but took them off as they looked goofy. Those engine nacelles in primer suggest that they may have been trouble with the Junkers-Jumo 004 engines at some point in the test program also. Something probably involving fire, shedding turbine blades, or both. At least I did mine in primer; I wonder if they were yellow to identify it as a test aircraft as it didn't have wing markings, at least on top.
Pat
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actually, they just had to change the engines costantly so there were more than one set of covers. they were told to change engines every 5-10 hours running!
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Anyone want to see a JPG of all of them in the bookcase, I have one.
Pat
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Not a bad assumption...I knew a guy at GE that ran away and joined the Canadian forces (lied about his age) and ended up flying Spits and Typhoons for the RAF during WWII. His unit was in charge of mopping up and securing German airfields after D-Day, and he told me they came across six Me 262s and burnt one of them up on the ground trying figure out how to run the engines on a mix of avgas and tank diesel (there was no fuel on the airfield and the jets were just left behind)...said the throttles were very touchy. They painted roundels on them and everyone in the unit supposedly got to fly one once before the intel folks found out and came and hauled the off...the jets, I mean.
I don't generally do Luft '46, but I'm thinking of scratch-hacking one of these in 1/32, starting from the Revell kit:
http://www5.in.tum.de/lehre/seminare/math_nszeit/SS03/vortraege/kriegd/images/heinkel_01.jpg
...just 'cuz.
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Rufus wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if someone has a resin conversion kit out, or at least arriving in the near future, for that. I never did get around to doing one of the two pulse-jet powered varients of the He-162. Wait till you see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScVuXyuj28
Engine gets a bit warm in operation.
Pat
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Pat Flannery wrote:

I always wondered how people did that...
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a conversion in 1/48 or 1/72, but 1/32 always gets last call. Bet if I start one somebody will put one out.
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Been there, did that. Fort Duqucaine (I know that's mis-spelt) did one in 1:72 a few years back. It's a pretty little piece. Converted the Hasegawa, IIRC.
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I started a range of 1/72 models some years ago. I only build jet planes so no rocket planes like the Me-163 but here's my list:
Coanda Turbine Aeroplane    10/12/1910    Romania        ??? Heinkel He-178            27/08/1939    Germany         Condor Caproni Campini CC-2        28/08/1940    Italy        Delta Heinkel He-280            30/03/1941    Germany         Huma Gloster E28/39 Pioneer        15/05/1941    UK        Frog / Pavla Messerschmitt Me-262 Schwalbe    10/07/1942    Germany         Revell / Academy / High Planes Bell P-59A Airacomet        02/10/1942    USA        Anigrand / Karo-As / Special Hobby Gloster Meteor            05/03/1943    UK        Airfix / Special Hobby Arado Ar-234 Blitz        30/07/1943    Germany        Frog / Dragon De Havilland DH-100 Vampire    20/09/1943    UK        Heller Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star    08/01/1944    USA        Airfix Junkers Ju-287            16/08/1944    Germany         Huma Heinkel He-162 Volksjδger    06/12/1944    Germany        Frog / Revell / Dragon McDonnell FH-1 Phantom        26/01/1945    USA        MPM Horten Ho-IX / Gotha Go-229    02/02/1945    Germany        Revell Bell XP-83            25/02/1945    USA        Anigrand Northrop XP-79            31/07/1945    USA        RS Model Nakajima J8N Kikka        07/08/1945    Japan        RS MOdel Republic P-84 Thunderjet    28/02/1946    USA        Heller Yakolev Yak-15            24/04/1946    USSR        PM Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-9        24/04/1946    USSR        MPM / Scarabee Douglas XB-43            01/05/1946    USA        Anigrand De Havilland DH-108 Swallow    15/05/1946    UK        Arba Supermarine Attacker        27/07/1946    UK        Magna Lavochkin La-150        01/09/1946    USSR        Unknown Russian Vacuform Vought F6U Pirate        02/10/1946    USA        Meikraft / Pavla Sud Ouest SO-6000 Triton    11/11/1946    France        Mach2 Sukhoi Su-9            13/11/1946    USSR        MPM / VP North American FJ-1 Fury    27/11/1946    USA        Rareplanes / Pegasus Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka        July 1945    Japan        AV resin / 12 Squared Ryan FR-1Fireball        25/06/1945    USA        MPM Ryan XF2R-1 Dark Shark         Nov 1946    USA        MPM Sukhoi Su-5            01/04/1945    USSR        Czech Master / MPM Mikoyan Gurevich I-250 / MiG-13    03/03/1945    USSR        Omega Convair XP-81            11/02/1945    USA        Anigrand Curtiss XF15C            27/02/1945    USA        RVHP / pro Resin
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

I'd forgotten that one; you could do a diorama of it flying into the wall on its first flight. :-D
Pat
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