Origin of Revells 1/72 SU-25 kit #04354?

Hi, does anyone know the origin of the kit which Revell is selling under their #04354? The KP one? Thanks.

Sincerely,

Martin

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Tomcat
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The old OEZ? or something..i remember taking a look at it a year or so ago, i had seen it before somewhere....v old and basic kit, cant remember how good, but i walked away....

Reply to
Jules

Not sure about the kit number, but if it's the one molded in tan/brown plastic, it's a Revell original.

Reply to
Don McIntyre

Ah-ha, this one I know! That, their MiG-31 Foxhound, Su-27 Flanker, and Yak-36 Forger started out as Takara kits.

Pat

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Pat Flannery

Unless they got one from someone else, it's the old one from the 1980's. And the armament layout shown on the new boxtop is the same as shown on that kit:

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that site says it's ex-Zvezda):
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it's the old one, the mold was from the Japanese (?) company Kangnam Plastics. Revell released a MiG-31 Foxhound, Su-27 Flanker, and Yak-38 Forger at the same time, with all the molds coming from the same company. Accuracy was nowhere near as good as the KP one if that's the case.

Pat

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Pat Flannery

This is a bit of a crapshoot - Revell did have their very own 1/72 Su-25 molds, years ago, but the kit was a typical Cold War era piece of guesswork, and badly inaccurate. *If*, as one of the posts in this thread suggests, the kit is a reboxing of the 1/72 Zvezda Su-25 (entirely possible - Revell, Italeri, and Zvezda are connected, and share molds frequently), then it is much more accurate, and it is the only "modern" 1/72 Su-25 kit currently available. It's not perfect (the nose is a bit "snipey"-looking in side view, sort of like a MiG-27), but generally it's a good, well-detailed kit. The old KP kit is really the most accurate of any of them, though.

John

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jthmpson

KP had the advantage of being able to send its kit designers out to the airfields and museums to get a close-up look at the real article, rather than having to rely on NATO photos of them. I find the fact that both the old and new Revell kit have the same armament layout shown on the box top suggestive of the fact that this is just the old kit being reissued. Of the four Soviet aircraft they brought out together, it was the least inaccurate due to all the photos of its use in Afghanistan. This is interesting:

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state that a lot of these aircraft are ex-Hasegawa molds. Would Hasegawa turn over its molds to a competitor?

Pat

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Pat Flannery

interesting:

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They state that a lot of these aircraft are ex-Hasegawa molds.

While I wouldn't say Hasegawa "turned over" their molds to Revell there was/is quite a bit of mold sharing between the two. Revell's current ProModeller F-4E/Fs, for example, are from the Hasegawa molds. I don't know if Revell is paying a license fee or what to Hasegawa, but I'm sure there's some sort of fiscal transaction(s) going on here. It may just be an attempt to broaden the market for Hasegawa kits in the USA and Europe. Also, these releases tend to be significantly cheaper than the Hasegawa releases. Even so, I'm not sure if the molds were shipped to Revell, or if Hasegawa does the molding and ships the plastic to Revell for release. Obviously I'm not speaking with any authority, this is just my understanding of the way things are worked out.

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Don McIntyre

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