Designer/machinist needed Greensboro, North Carolina

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:43:03 GMT in alt.machines.cnc :

Theres a local plumbing company which advertises on the radio "we'll seen a trained experience, drug free employee" to your location If you want to work for such a company, give us a call, otherwise, go work for someone else.

On the one hand, I don't like mandatory drug testing, as I don't do drugs. OTOH, it does mean I'm working with other people similarly inclined.

tschus pyotr

-- Sometimes fate hits you with the Clown Hammer of Circumstance and there's nothing to do but sit there and watch the little birds fly around your head." - Tara Calishain, ResearchBuzz

You are generally impaired for weeks if not months, and sometimes years after smoking pot heavily for any extended length of time.

The impairment is purely psycological, but it feels real just the same..........

The first thing a heavy pot smoker wants when he has run out is to have more pot, and the object of getting another stash will usually take pretty close to top priority and consume most of his time and depending on his station in life, financial resources.

And he is busy in the back of his mind, often conniving those around him as it is a very central part of his life.

Dont fool yourself, think about how irratible you get once youve run out, and the priority you then place upon getting more.......

Ever missed dinner at mom's place cause you was busy trying to find some weed--and if so, what excuse did ya give her ???

I spent 30 years inna daze from that shit, and I'm still not quite sure why I gave it all up about five years ago, after quitting off and on several times....I just know its very unlikely Im never gonna get stoned on pot again.........

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But I'll tell you one thing, just give it up for two weeks and see then how you feel about things and life in general.......your just looking at the world through rose colored glasses if you cant at least do that much.

The craving passes quickly, but unfortunately, life still sucks--and perhaps even more so, I dunno and simply dont care anymore...........I'm not going back there no way no how.

Budda bing. Exactly.

There are a number of legal drugs, and natural substances that will give false positives, but are easily determined in a lab, using gas spectroanylasis. Not something the safety manager is likely to have in his office.

Gunner

"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around."

"Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion).

-Buddy Jordan 2001

Huh?

Gunner

"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around."

"Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion).

-Buddy Jordan 2001

oh oh..obvious sign of over usage of methamphetamine or withdrawal from opiates or long term usage of alcohol.

Lets stand him on the side of a dark road then shine a Streamlight into his eyes...Geeze... pin points..ayup....a meth user for sure...

Chuckle

Gunner

"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around."

"Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion).

-Buddy Jordan 2001

And you should not be operating equipment which can endanger other people's lives, since you're not actually functioning. I really don't give a crap if the pilot of my flight is drunk, sleep deprived, sick, taking prescription drugs legally, taking prescription drugs illegally, or taking illegal drugs. If he shows up to work and cannot function, I want him grounded beforehand.

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So first you say they don't, and now you say they do. Flip-flopper.

And then you start lying about the cost, time, complexity; and you previously lied about worker acceptance - most places that use such tests report that workers are far happier knowing that everyone around them has had to take exactly the same test they did to get onto the job site, and is functional _today_. The cost of a machine or set of machines (bought once) to test every worker every day is diddly compared to the cost (every single test) to "randomly" collect piddle. Most require nobody to operate them but the worker, and take only a minute or so. The information is freely available on the web.

As I've said, I really don't care what you're on, or if you're on nothing at all - the _impairment_ test has no need to determine that. If the test shows that you are _impaired_, you can either get fired on the spot, or take a sick day and go get any number of tests to show exactly what you are or are not on when you fail the test. And you _don't_ get to go to work while you are a danger to others, regardless of whether you are a danger to others because you didn't sleep last night, or you got drunk last night, or you got drunk this morning, or you have a legal prescription for oxycontin, or you had your maid get you oxycontin illegally. I really don't feel a bit better about getting killed by some guy who's "just sleep deprived" or "just drunk" or "just has an ear infection" than I do about getting killed my some guy who's "stoned".

Personally, I stick to caffeine, theobromine, and a very small amount of ethanol in the appropriate time relationship to working. But that does not mean I have any interest in working at places which are more interested in "reefer madness" than they are in "worker safety".

Emperical data seem to suggest that the answer is "no".

You guys ever thought about running for politics? He said, she said, he lied........geez. "Can't we all just get along?" :-)

I had to dig deeeeep into the archives for this one...

The first part mainly centers around thought reading technology, so you guys can ignore it if you want. I scanned yours and there really isn't anything to write home about (I'm joking!).

The second and third parts have some unique view points that may educate? You really have to listen to the whole thing to get the proper context for the points they make.

It's very eirie how some of the callers talk about things that are in this thread.

If you're too lazy to listen, have one of your friends do it. See what they think. I've never heard anyone talk like this before.

Mike Wilson

Kill filing everything cross posted to 'misc.survivalism' will get rid of a substantial portion of the inane drivel.

Hi, Bill.

Actually, I dont drink anywhere near as much as I used to either.

For the best buzz try morning exercise. Doesn't matter what the activity as long as you break a sweat and give your heart a good beating at least 20 minutes a day.

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Thats what I keep the wife around for.........

Thanks for the tip, BD. I'll be able to survive my visits to this NG easier without seeing those guys. Regulars on comp.cad.cnc as well???

jk

Chuckle..we are talking about different tests. Your claim that cheap easily operated tests exist that can test for everything. They dont. It takes a work up in a lab to catch everything.

Mass spectrographs are easy to use and cheap? Interesting. Btw..I notice your repeated use of the term "liar". Live in California? Want to go dancing in your parking lot? Keep using it. Ill give you the option of open hand, cold steel or blued steel. Thats something I dont much care for, nor do you see me using the term. Honor is more than just a buzzword with me. Just a heads up.

For some reason you seem to think that I am not in favor of piss testing???? I was the person that originally agreed with it and stated my reasons why. If we are in agreement that its a good thing, then why are you bitching?

Shrug...sounds to me like you are mixed up. You are all in favor of some kind of testing from the 2nd paragraph up...yet you are against effective testing.

I do wish you would make up your mind.

Gunner

"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around."

"Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion).

-Buddy Jordan 2001

That's alt.machines.cnc, and yes, off topic x-posted nonsense from misc.survivalism (political extremists, gun nuts, assorted whackjobs, etc) has been plaguing that group for *years*. I deal with it by kill filing it. Others choose to add to the noise by replying to the tripe with even more tripe, which is THE root of the problem.

Ignore it, and it will eventually go away. That's what kill filters were created for. Use them.

Contribute to it, and you will draw even more of it in, for sure.

Also, signs of early Parkinson's Disease, particularly the tremblying when relaxed and straight, steady, confident strokes when doing something.

Also note that many other Parkinson symptoms could lead an inadequately trained field officer into a serious mistake...due to the Ataxia and resultant staggering gait plus a total inability to walk 'Heel to Toe.'

Fortunately a hospital blood test will quickly clear up the situation, but by that time you have already been handcuffed and your car towed away! The next step is, of course, to call your lawyer and sue (after getting your car returned).

If you have been heavily drinking and also suffer from Parkinson's Disease, that's another issue and you deserve what is coming to you. (Before jumping to the conclusion that Parkinisons is a geriatric disorder, recall that both Michael J. Fox and Janet Reno suffer from it, plus many others who conceal the fact.)

Harry C.

Sure glad you ain't still on the force....ya got it bass-ackwards. Should be: ...big as saucers, slow response to light...a meth user for sure...(well, dunno 'bout "for sure"). Pinpoint pupils would indicate possible depressant intox.

Chuckle indeed.

HTH

- DW