SheetMetal - Sample Model for Drawn Corners.

Howdy folks,
I have had this method of making a drawn part with "unfoldable" corners
in my back pocket for a while. This is a pretty clean work-around, so
don't be to quick to think that we have discovered some hidden modeling
While I have used this method many times, I though that due to the wave
of senseless spam and OT posts in this newsgroup lately, it might be
nice to share something that relates to . . . um . . . SolidWorks.
This is a pretty clean method that could be used for any of you folks
out there who might need to make a drawn corner or those of you in
tooling and fabrication who absolutely need some sort of unfolded draw.
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I also have a How-To Tutorial in the works for this part and will post
it once it's done.
In any case, let's help ourselves get back on topic and leave all the
lame spammers and OT addicts in the dust.
Reply to
Sean-Michael Adams
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Pretty clever.
How close are the allowances for bends to the allowances for forming ?
Reply to
Mark Mossberg
Hi Mark -
The "Straight Aways" are as good as it gets, as the longer edges tend to act like "regular" formed edges. The corners, while not accruate, are a pretty good starting place and since the actual configuration of any flat for a draw is a negotiable thing based on thickness, draw height, curvature, inner vs outer shell and tooling factors, this is a reasonable starting point.
Any draw tooling that I have been involved with generally needs a couple iterations of the flat blank before anyone will commit to a "hard tooled" development. Generally, the draw tool will be made and the flat blank will be developed with laser blanks until the desired shape is attained. It is not uncommon for this to take a couple (read as a few, if hacks are involved) iterations for a drawn corner to be developed. Generally, one can radially scribe out lines on a 15 degree (or whatever is needed) radial grid and chart out the points on the drawn piece - after that the next blank is developed with "reverse compensation", charted, formed and compensated again. Eventually one homes in on a smooth development. Essentially, when material is added or taken away, the draw dynamics change and the part acts differently.
The model I posted has a "dreaded" internal draw which is near impossible (as I drew it) to make it one hit. These are a problem as all of the material is in tension, unlike an external draw where the material bunches radially and elongates along the height. These two forces work together to balance each other out, allowing a reasonable chance at success. In any case, the part that one needs to make will invariably involve some development. A large arc (based on thickness) will form almost picture perfect as if it were linear, while a "sharp" radius will have radical distortion. The height of the draw will also influence its final state, a shallow draw will behave more like a "standard" form while a deep draw will not.
I wonder if this is what prohibits SW from making a sheet metal feature that addresses the drawn corner or curved flange. Fear of putting out "bad" geometry, where no good solution is really possible a priori. I think that there must be some element of FEA that could get one pretty close and reduce the number of iterations in development (maybe there is a perfect tool out there). People who develop this stuff usually know better, not to say that some folks out there have a major ammount of experience and can make a very strong estimation for the first hit and be very close.
I know that round blanks for fully drawn shells have a bit of mathematics behind them based on number of hits (reductions), shell geometry and so on, but most of this stuff usually comes down to finer & finer iterations until the part works. Some of this can be translated to the corners here as imperfect 1/4 "shells", but we are no where near "1st pass certainty".
Reply to
Sean-Michael Adams
hi Sean
take a look at
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Sean-Michael Adams wrote:
Reply to
solid steve
Hi Steve,
Have you used this one? How good of a job does it do? Do you like it?
I appreciate that they call this "predictive" - this shows that they understand the problem and are helping people get closer in less time, not giving them a perfect blank "magically".
Their quote: "Consistently reduces material costs and number of trials in the blank die tryout stage". Leads me to believe that they know that development of this type is iterative.
. . . "Legalistically speaking, I think that they probably mean _draw_ die tryout stage - if someone has a blank die already made, it's too late in the process & someone got some 'splainin (and inserting) to do", said Mr Adams, dressed in his finest Philadelphia Lawyers outfit (grin).
Looks like cool stuff that could make life easier.
Testimonies anyone?
Reply to
Sean-Michael Adams

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