The big difference as I see it is not out on the road running locals or thru jobs, but in complex yard situations where you have sveral locomotives running in the same area and on much of the same track.
Controlling this even with a computer controlled DC block assignment gets to be difficult and expensive. This usually results is short blocks to replicate the prototype operations.
This is the main reason I removed a Chubb block control system and wnet with DCC.
Ed old pal, when people stop jumping in at every DC/DCC query with the ignorant mantra "DC is dead/DCC is everything, I will stop telling them they are idiots. I know enough about DCC to attempt to design my own variants of decoders - get back to me when you've finished reading the boxes your's came in and stop being an obnoxious pratt.
It's certainly tempting in my yard situation, but this is offset in my case by the additional complexities of operation in the hidden staging yard and the horrendous cost of DCCing 100 odd locos. I decided that PC driven progressive cab control was easier/simpler and definitely cheaper than DCC.
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:46:27 +1300, Gregory Procter wrote:
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Oh, for Pete's sake, stow the bombastic rhetoric G. Procter. You have made it abundantly clear that you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to DCC. You don't even know or differentiate between the ancient carrier command control and modern DCC. To you, they are all one and the same. I seriously doubt that you are capable of building anything that would pass as a useable DCC decoder in any scale, much less HO. If you believe you have, then you are just about the only one. I find it amusing that you have no idea to what depth my knowledge of DCC extends, yet you continue to try to put up the front that you are an accomplished amateur electrical engineer who can design and build decoders at will. I'm sorry G. Procter, that is simply not believable. You have repeatedly shown all those who do have a working knowledge of DCC that you do not. Even more amusing is the fact that when you are backed into a corner (most often by your own inability to say, "I don't know") you resort to abuse and name-calling in an effort to save face. I suppose that so long as that option is open to you all is not yet lost. In addition to the above, you continue to mislead and distort the facts and even invent things that have not been said, to wit: " DC is dead/DCC is everything." Google is your friend, G. Procter. Find that statement in this thread originating from some source other than your own self. Don't bother to re-post the message, just post the link so that we can all go see for ourselves. I don't really care how you play with your trains, and I don't really care to what extreme degree you make a fool of yourself prating on about that which you do not understand. I would think that you should be aware that you are making a laughing stock of yourself over this DCC issue. Not that I care, really, I just thought an artist with his own gallery would have more self-esteem than that. I have already opined that you would be miles or kilometres if you prefer, ahead if you would abandon this thread and let T. Flynn handle it. At least he does have a vague idea about what makes DCC work. You, demonstrably, do not. I await your response, should one be forthcoming, and am curious to see if you can concatenate a cogent and reasoned one without resorting to your usual bombast, insults and name-calling. I rather doubt it.
As there is no reason of any sort contained within your litany of insults, I'm forced to assume you are utterly ignorant of DCC, analogue, model railways, any form of manners and even of life itself. I'm here for reasoned discussion - I pointed out that frequently any beginners questions on control are answered with "DCC is everything/DC is dead" type answers and that there is still a major place for analogue control. All you can come back with are personal insults - go crawl back under your rock.
I think you're the one who's making a jerk of himself, Greg, continually jumping on any question that mentions DCC and doling out false information. Please cite instances where newbies have been advised "DCC is everything/DC is dead." I doubt you can find even one.
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:24:39 +1300, Gregory Procter wrote:
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Excuse me while I laugh out loud. What is that supposed to be, some sort of lame dismissal? G. Procter the all wise, all knowing is through with you Ed Davis. You're dismissed. Excuse me for a moment while I roll on the floor laughing. What an insufferably arrogant fop you are, in addition to having now been thoroughly exposed as an ignorant one regarding the methods of controlling model railways. You may know something about the workings of DC systems, but you are completely ignorant of anything else. You made the remark to the effect that you would not tolerate proponents of DCC lauding it over DC and claiming that it was better. I have been lurking and occasionally posting here for years and I have grown quite disgusted with your miss-informed and venom filled postings. Know this G. Procter, for as long as I read this board I will be here to challenge you on every falsehood you tell with the regard to the workings of DCC that comes to my attention. The regulars on this board already know that you cannot be relied on to provide any cogent information on anything beyond the most basic DC operation. You are not here for reasoned discussion, you are here to troll and spit venom. Indeed, it is you who belongs under the rock, viper that you are. G. Procter, the frustrated expert wannabe. Stay with what you know G. Procter and this sort of thing will stop. You certainly do not know anything about DCC model railways. I'm through with you now G. Procter. You're dismissed, for the moment. Go outside to purge your venom. No one here wants to be exposed to it.
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