Usual excellent close up pics from 'Rails of Sheffield' upon the release of 45543.
Cheers Robt P.
Hi Robert,
Tender is *much* too wide too, which totally spoils the appearance of the Patriot.
John.
Worse than that, the valve gear is a mess. Not a bit like the Black 5 or
8F. This must be a hasty re-issue of this model in loco drive version. The two halves of Hornby don't appear to be talking to each other these days. The new LMS coaches are superb. I wouldn't insult them by putting this 'Patriot' in front of them.Null punkt.
Alistair W '5522' Models
"Alistair Wright" wrote
Where did you read that this is loco drive? Got to say I've not checked but I'd put my money on a Ringfield in the tender.
No they're not - they are a significant improvement on the ofl ones for sure, but read my realier critique on the BR liveried ones on this newsgroup. Spolit the job for a ha'p'orth oftar in my opinion.
John.
I would say almost certainly, look at the motion in the photo's and think about it....
V V
See it yet, look at the two photo's of the same side, notice the motion has moved!
"John Turner" wrote in
John.
In message , John Turner writes
The Hornby 2005 catalogue, page 39 definitely states that it is tender drive.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:35:47 -0000, "John Turner" said in :
It might be just me, but the whole thing looks to be well below the current standard as exemplified by the new A3 and others.
Guy
of the Home Guard. They all worked long hours in normal jobs and gave what little spare time they had. Mr Brown was ready with his gun! regards, Steve
"60106" wrote Usual excellent close up pics from 'Rails of Sheffield' upon the release of 45543.
Whilst I agree that the pictures are really good, It does highlight that Hornby really do need to put a dab of black paint in the middle of their wheels where the axles show through ! Something I have just noted and never heard anyone comment on before. It really stands out on this model despite the weathering!
Do Rails also list second hand items in the same format on the site? (Never pay them much attention - the shop that is) Seems very odd to describe the condition as "brand new" when its 5h17 up to the eyeballs in Hornby weathering, which is OK and diesels, but never been over enthusiastic on the steamers as it's much harder to do, but better to me than a pristine model.
"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote
That's because it's basically just a re-issue of a very old model, with just the tender drive uprated with a 5-pole armature rather than the older style
3-pole effort.With an RRP just a tad below £90 it's another example of gross over-pricing by Hornby in my opinion.
John.
IIRC Rails auctions its second hand items on eBay using similar pictures. They make it quite clear if a model is in used condition.
(kim)
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