BR(S) Coach Set Nos.

"Paul Francis"

And so on and so on.

My question is, "What?"

-- Cheers Roger T.

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Yo

No. Not exactly. :o) But ...

... is a good reference (for all coach formations) and possibly links (too much info. for me to be sure what you need is there) so check it out ~ bits you may be most interested in found in the section with green background on 'index1' page.

HTH

Fling

Yo

Possibly

is more along the lines of what you're after (found this link in my favourites after I posted the above).

HTH

Fling

You really need An Illustrated History of Southern Coaches by Mike King (the only criticism from the reviews being the photographs weren't in colour, to which Mike's response was "They took s*dd*ng black and white photos in those days".

I can't remember whether the Bachman Bulleids were large or small vents. But basically all the small vents came out in malachite, whilst only 15 sets of large vent stock came out in malachite from May 1949. These were semi open bk 3rd - 3rd - Compo - semi open bk 3rd

By 1956 about 60 - 70% of SR stock was in new colours. The painting cycle probably meant the 1948 - 49 stock was most likely to still be in green. Then the SR was permitted to revert to green (albeit darker than malachite). The painting cycle could have been: remaining malachite, early blood and custard (therefore including the Bulleids), etc. So BR stock would probably have been repainted later than the Bulleids. By

1960, practically everything was in green; then a few were maroon in 1966-67, none believed to be in blue-grey.

Don't assume the painting cycle was perfect. A coach whizzing past Eastleigh works would be called in sooner than one perambulating around a west country back water.

Sets - too long a story for this missive, and your best source is probably David Gould's appendix . Have fun!!

In article , Paul Francis writes

As a regular contributor to the Southern E Group site I can recommend the following pages on the SeMG site

for the Bachmann Bulleids including set numbers

for information on coach sets

regards

Graham

Thanks John for your reply, and apologies to Flingel Bunt and Roger T and others who couldn't understand the question - my message picked up some gremlins between me sending the message and it being published. It introduced a series of characters every time I used an apostrophy ('). Presumably there is nobody to check whether messages are gobbledegook or not!? However, I'd still like to know whether Southern Mark 1's were put into numbered sets.....

Regards, Paul.

Phil: 1/ Set your Microsoft output to PLAIN TEXT to avoid the strange characters

2/ Yes: in something I was reading only last night, I saw mention that Mk1s did get formed into sets (probably for use on the ACE.. since that was one of the books I was reading at the time) .. it was with a comment that the internal layout of the Mk1s followed the Bullied stock so closely, that they were interchangable and ...(some) became formed into sets

Yo

I understood the ‘question’ ;o) between the ‘gobbledegook’ quite well, there's just too much info. in the answer you require so ...

Here's a snippet from my 1st post... "

... is a good reference (for all coach formations) and possibly links (too much info. for me to be sure what you need is there) so check it out ~ bits you may be most interested in found in the section with green background on 'index1' page."

Maybe you didn't read it?!?!? :-/

I responded with links which, if you'd followed up would have eventually led to ...

(which is listed in the bit with the green background I mentioned)

... which contains a file to download! Ok, want me to make it 'real' easy for you or can you do this yourself?!?! ;o)

There are three versions of the same file in ~ text, Lotus & Excel format. I downloaded the Excel file and the free Excel file viewer from MicroSoft. This file contains ... wait for it ...

ALL Southern numbered sets (give or take a small few forgotten by history ... or not yet found by semg researchers :oD) including some type of ... oh, I dunno, Mark Ones or somut ;o)

Easy enough or do I have to copy and paste the numbered MK1 sets into this newsgroup for you? (It's a long and informative list, do yourself a favour and download 'that' file!?!?!?)

G'wan, explore

you know you want to!!!! :o)

All the best

Fling

Thanks everybody for your help! ( I could have managed without the sarcasm, though - you know who you are). Regards, Paul

One of the British mags, I think Model Railway Constructor about

1976-77 had a decent article on Bullied coaches. I've been searching since you first asked, without any luck so far. (time to sort them all into logical order!) More recently, "Trains" had another article based on the Bachmann releases, and versions that might be built from them. I guess my two examples are filed together under ...

Regards, Greg.P.

Looks like Nov. 80 to Jan 81, according to the index of magazines on the BRMNA site.

this is a pretty good index of british magazines for the last forty years or so.

I also thought I remembered another series of drawings of Bullied coaches back in the sixties in the MRC when it had the drawings on the coloured paper, but no note of it in this index.

Jim.

Your memory is not at fault, Jim- there was a series of articles on Southern stock (it included some Maunsell stock, and also covered the Tavern car sets) in MRC in 1965-6. Sadly, most of my magazines from that period have now disappeared. That coloured paper has to have been one of the worst ideas from both a design and technical level that I can recall- it was in a variety of 'used-nappy' colours IIRC Brian

Phil: There was also a set of 4mm drawings published together as a collected volume... I have it somewhere.. if only I knew where 8-(

You may wish to look at my Sheet BL32 at

;

End numbering for 60 BR(S) sets, (4 numbers per set); available in white, cream or yellow.

John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers.

MRC references for SR coaches which I have listed are :

3/65; 3/66; 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11/67; 1,3,6/71; 11/72; 11/80; 1/81.

John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers.

I was only four years off the mark - normally I'm five years out so I must be improving! 8^)

Regards, Greg.P.