Bude with a Stanier tender

Obviously the model is recreating the 1947 locomotive exchanges - for which IIRC the Bulleid Pacifics used Stanier tenders, because their own tenders had no water trough equipment.

Or it could be a c*ck-up, of course.

Regards

Jonathan

'THE' Bulleid Pacific used 'A' Stanier tender.

Only carried by the one loco and only during the exchanges.

Probably aimed at the collectors market.

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Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:-

Wasn't that the self-weighing tender so they could measure coal consumption?

Surely the exchanges involved a Merchant Navy as well as a WC/BB? So that's two.

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Jonathan

">>> Obviously the model is recreating the 1947 locomotive exchanges - for

Not sure but it did have a water scoop, which no Southern loco had and I believe that was the prime reason for swapping tenders. Besides, if they wanted to accurtely measure coal consumption, the tender was emptied of coal and then refilled with 1cwt bags of coal and a record was kept of the number of bags emtied into the tender. At the end of the run, all the coal remaining in the tender was shoveled back into 1cwt bags and all the bags were weighed thus finding out exactly how much coal was used.

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Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:-

Not sure about the MN but the model is of a WC, and only one of those was used. :-)

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According to C JAllen in his book "The Locomotive Exchanges" the ex-SR pacifics used were 35017 BELGIAN MARINE, 35019 FRENCH LINE CGT, 34004 YEOVIL, 34005 BARNSTAPLE and 34006 BUDE. As the Southern had never installed any water troughs, the ex-SR locomotives were all provided with Stanier tenders during the 1948 Exchanges to allow them to use water troughs. Similarly, non-SR locomotives being tested over ex-SR routes were provided with ex-Austerity 8-wheel tenders, which had a greater water capacity than the "normal" tenders. Not all engines underwent a "tender exchange", but CJ Allen's book has photos of BELGIAN MARINE on Holloway Bank and at Bushey with a Stanier tender, 46154 THE HUSSAR at Vauxhall with a WD tender, 46236 CITY OF BRADFORD at Waterloo, also with WD tender, FRENCH LINE CGT at Westbourne Park with a Stanier tender, BUDE leaving Marylebone and at Rickmansowrth with a Stanier tender, BARNSTAPLE at St Pancras with Stanier tender, BUDE at Newton Abbott with a Stanier tender, YEOVIL at Euston with Stanier tender, same engine and tender at Druimachdar Pass summit, BELGIAN MARINE with Stanier tender at both Wigan and Kenton, CITY OF BRADFORD with WD tender at Vauxhall, BUDE near Mottram with Stanier tender, YEOVIL passing South Kenton with Stanier tender and at Perth, also with the Stanier tender. as far as I can tell from the photographs it looks as if all the tenders were painted black, irrespective of the colour of the locomotive - but I might be wrong on this and stand ready to be corrected. The Stanier tenders all appear to have been emblzoned with the words BRITISH RAILWAYS, while the ex-WD tenders (which appear to have only been attached to the Duchess and the two Royal Scots) were lettered LMS.

Apologies for the length of this, but hope it helps.

David Costigan

A J Fry, in "Bullied Power: The Merchant Navy Pacifics" says 35020 BIBBY LINE also got an LMS tender (No 10373) but was not used in the Exchanges.

Tim