Stanier tenders for Jubilees

I would like to paint up a BR Green Stanier Tender in the Lined Black livery used by the LMS. The Fowler Tender is lined in White on marroon but none of my photos are good enough to determine the Stanier scheme, in fact I cannot detect any lining at all (except on the locos).

Are there any better qualified chaps out there please?

Regards

Peter A

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Peter Abraham
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"Peter Abraham" wrote

LMS locos which carried lined black livery were lined out in red. There are plenty of suitable pictures in the various volumes of Jenkinson's tomb on LMS locos.

John.

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John Turner

John, That kind of data is rarer than hens teeth hereabouts! Regards

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Peter Abraham

And straw.

Cheers, Simon

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simon

Well thank goodness! All those who rushed to my aid can now relax as I discovered a Hornby Black 5 dressed in the post war livery (not that I ever saw such a thing in real life) which the HMRS can provide transfers for. Beats me how it managed to sit in the back road of my No2 sub shed un-noticed.

Regards

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Peter Abraham

Have Hornby done a Black 5 with maroon and straw LMS lining ? Compare it to the recently released LMS rebuilt Scot - Green Howards.

cheers, Simon

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simon

Thanks for that Simon, that there Scot is lined exactly like my Bk 5 (R858 of 87/89 Numbered 5241). Less Encouraging is that the Bachmann 5711 Courageous has such overwhelming straw lining that I wonder if it is valid, both the Hornby examples above have very little evidence of the straw lines. HMRS descriptions seem to be inclined to the Hornby version. Of course it is Courageous that I wish to furnish with a Stanier tender as all of my Jubilees have both a Fowler and a Stanier available. I had bought one on eBay but like so many things recently it has not materialised -- must be the season.

Regards

Peter A

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Peter Abraham

Checked Essery and Jenkinson LMS locos Vol 1 General Review and Loco liveries. Theres a couple of coloured cab panels in there and the relative thicknesses of straw vs maroon look just right on the Hornby Scot. Marvellous book - Officially maroon should be 2.5" and straw 3/8" thick.

Looked at Bachmann Green Howards and the cab lining looks right but the rest of it more of a friday afternoon job - variable thickness esp on footplate, tender straw lining much thicker (at least 2*) than other places. But then that whole model was a friday afternoon job. So yes, would go with the Hornby.

Cheers, Simon

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simon

Ta much Simon, good service!

Regards

Peter A

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Peter Abraham

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