Predictions for the new year model releases?

":::Jerry::::" wrote

I've never signed a non-disclosure agreement with any of my suppliers.

John.

"Badger" wrote

I'd certainly buy 14s and 17s, and already have a 15, but I wouldn't touch an EMU with a barge pole.

John.

rebuild

But then you are up in LNER land John.... :~)

remember

their ND

suppliers.

What about a contract, is their any ND clause in that?

In message , Steve W writes

Hmmm. P'raps you're right.

In message , John Turner writes

So how am I going to buy one from you, then? I assume you'd want to test it before you sent it to me.

If it's the right sort of EMU (like those that have been mentioned hereabouts recently), I might want two or three. Each.

I wouldn't mind a 4-Cig/Big or two on my BR (ER) layout, because weren't they the ones built at York?

A train of 2 or 3 newly built units behind a grubby WD 2-8-0 would look quite good.

Turner

wouldn't touch

Err, no, perhaps behind a grubby 33 (they could work quite a way up the southern end of the ECML) or a 31 - the Cig/Big's that you refer to were built in the early '70's to replace the old central Division Cor's etc. The Kent Coast and western section stock were built in the Southern Regions own works shops IIRC.

The 411s/412s were built at Eastleigh, but some 421s were built at York

1964-1965, so *could* have been steam-hauled.

Division

Hmm, but when you consider that they were air braked and that the

33's could work well past Doncaster without the need for a 'pilot' it seems *very* unlikely seeing that steam was also becoming rare south of Peterbough by then - more likely that they would have been 33 hauled through out.

Also, going back to the original comment about being steam-hauled, I don't think the WD 2-8-0's worked the southern end of the ECML although the WD 2-10-0's did, until about early '63.

Makes sense to me.

":::Jerry::::" wrote

Indeed, but I did say the MNs sold whereas the Spam Cans didn't.

John.

":::Jerry::::" wrote

Contact? What contract?

John.

"Jane Sullivan" wrote

I meant I wouldn't want any for personal consumption! :-)

John.

":::Jerry::::" wrote

Very unlikely. I've only ever seen reports of the 33s working to York with the Cliffe to Uddingstone (not sure on spelling of either locations) cement trains.

John.

Ill be buying from you as well (if they materialize) Rob

Indeed you did, I also expect that the A4's sell well down in these parts, but the J39's probably don't, if you see what I'm getting at? :~)

Hmm, so although you can do as you please then, so can they! :~(

'pilot' it

locations) cement

So the loco's can *work* to York, were the stock in question was built, but you think that it's unlikely that an air brake fitted loco would be sent to collect stock for their own region, hmmmmmm...

BTW, for those who don't know, it was one of the Cliffe to Uddingstone cement trains that derailed and thus caused the fatal crash in which the prototype type 4 'DP2' (that became the class

50's) was damaged beyond repair and written off.