"piemanlarger" wrote
Why and when were some Toads or other brake vans painted grey in BR days? I
> picked up a Grey Airfix toad that has XP on the side. I thaught Grey wagons
> usually meant no vacuum brakes?
The Airfix GWR brake van to which you refer is in a totally fictitious livery if I remember correctly. It is far too light for GWR livery and has no regional prefix "W" to fleet number.
Having said that there were "unfitted" brake vans for sure - they were almost exclusively used at the end of unfitted freights as accomodation for the guard. Altough without vacuum brakes they were equipped with screw-down friction brakes as were applied by the guard to assist the loco with train braking.
John.