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Re: Grey Toad

"piemanlarger" wrote

Why and when were some Toads or other brake vans painted grey in BR days? I > picked up a Grey Airfix toad that has XP on the side. I thaught Grey wagons > usually meant no vacuum brakes?

The Airfix GWR brake van to which you refer is in a totally fictitious livery if I remember correctly. It is far too light for GWR livery and has no regional prefix "W" to fleet number.

Having said that there were "unfitted" brake vans for sure - they were almost exclusively used at the end of unfitted freights as accomodation for the guard. Altough without vacuum brakes they were equipped with screw-down friction brakes as were applied by the guard to assist the loco with train braking.

John.

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John Turner
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This is true - The toads were confined to BR WR and often carried a black patch with RU (restricted use) and something else on them - If required I can try and find a photo to get the full lettering on the patch for you

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Mike

"Andy Sollis- Churnet Valley model Railway Dept." wrote

Ex-GWR Toads were observed working down to the docks at Hull (well off WR territory) in the 1960s.

John.

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John Turner

Not just GWR. Shew was considered the correct spelling, as opposed to show, which was one of those theatre things, well into the mid-1900's. There was a van worked from Old Oak to Caermarthen and beyond with detailed timings on the side- will try to find it later. Ken.

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Ken Parkes

Found it. GW 20 ton brake, Old Oak Common, RU, S, XP. W 17445 TO WORK 9.35 pm. (SX) PADDINGTON TO CARMARTHEN. 12.30 pm. CARMARTHEN JUNC. TO LAMPETER & BACK. 8.30 am.CARMARTHEN JUNC. TO LLANDILO (LIGHT). 4.5pm. LLANDILO JUNC. TO OLD OAK COMMON

Painted on three planks. Does anyone know what the "S" stood for?

Ken.

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Ken Parkes

1900?! darn! well I didnt realise I was that old......it just goes to shew......

Beowulf

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Beowulf

Funny, I thought you were invented in the eighth century, which would make it sceawian according to my dictionary.

Ken.

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Ken Parkes

Wonder if the WR sent them to accompany the surplus Class 14s that they lumbered Dairycoates shed with during that decade? ;-)

David E. Belcher

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David E. Belcher

"David E. Belcher" wrote

It was some time before the arrival of the class 14s which incidentally the BR(NER) fitters managed to get to work fairly reliably. Shame they were incapable of stopping a train though! ;-)

John.

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John Turner

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