Autodark helmet failure - repair attempt, need battery & holder advice

Aug 02, 2010 26 Replies

First posting in joining.welding, I hang out over rec.metal.



My cheapy autodark helmet quit recently, about 3 years old. I Googled autodark helmet repair and did not find much, except for this thread:

formatting link
the cross posting. Summary of which is: all autodark helmets w/ solar cells also have batteries, not they have capacitors, batteries,=85blah, blah, blah=85.Store your helmet in the sun to extend the battery life. The advice was a bit late but I placed the autodark module in a southern facing window for 9 weeks. On the first strike the autodark was noticeable slow, but was OK for the following restrikes. After a 5+ minute pause, the first strike was once again slow.



With not too much to loose, I used an Exacto knife and cut open the case seam:

formatting link
CR2330 batteries soldered to the board. I found a replacement battery w/ the solder leads attached
formatting link
but then I thought why not mount the batteries on the outside of the case as in this simulation
formatting link
is plenty of room between the module and my forehead for the batteries.



So should I stay w/ the 0.255mAh CR2330 battery or go with something else since I am no longer constrained by the package space? If so what? I found this puppy w/ a much higher capacity

formatting link
but it also has a higher self discharge rate.



SO where does one go to buy a very small qty of electrical components today? In my youth I stopped by Radio Shack or Olsens Electronics for parts. I found a nice looking battery holder online (in min qtys of



12). I need a battery holder that I can bond or screw/rivet to the PP (guess) case of the autodark module. Who are some good vendors that are willing to deal in small qty orders and don=92t have outrageous shipping rates?

snipped-for-privacy@c3net.net fired this volley in news:08af0138-3abe-47af-a681- snipped-for-privacy@k8g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

mouser.com They will sell you 5MM or 1 of just _about_ anything they carry (not tape-mounted parts, usually, but any bulk stuff for sure).

LLoyd

Digi-Key tends to be easier to deal with and have great customer service.

I use digikey a lot.

i

formatting link
"This item is available at most stores."

formatting link
?Detail&name=2482K-ND

--Winston

I use both, but prefer Mouser. Shipping is usually faster and cheaper than Digi-Key, especially if your order fits in a USPS flat rate box.

You could also try yard sales. Kids toys and cell phones are common discards.

Digi-Key Mouser Jameco Newark

Same as the others, plus

formatting link
and http://www.halte= d.com for surplus. Also,
formatting link
sometimes has electric/ electronic goodies for cheap, worth going to it for the entertainment. Herbach and Rademan lean more towards electromechanical stuff. With any of the surplus stuff, buy if you see what you want, it may not be there much longer.

Radio Shack has a bunch of stuff on their web site, sometimes they even have it in their stores. Most components and loose parts have been moved to a couple of sets of drawers in a dusty corner, you'll have to ask. Helps to look it up on the site first, then take the part number in, all of the places are arranged according to part numbers.

If your batteries are connected in series, you might look for a holder for a CR123, it's 6 volts out of the package, might last longer. Both Mouser and Digi-key have battery holders for both coin and tubular lithium batteries.

Stan

wrote: (clip) Helps to look it up on the site first, then take the part number in, all of the places are arranged according to part numbers. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think most of the training that Radio Shack provides their clerks is on selling cell phones. If you try to explain something technical, or describe a needed part, you probably won't get very far. Good advice to go in with the part numbers.

I got 10 CR2025 shipping incl for $1.95 on Ebay. Good batts too. JR Dweller in the cellar

snipped-for-privacy@c3net.net wrote:

formatting link
Hence the cross posting. Summary of which is: all autodark helmets

formatting link
Two CR2330 batteries soldered to the board. I found a replacement

formatting link
but then I thought why not mount the batteries on the outside of the

formatting link
There is plenty of room between the module and my forehead for the

formatting link
but it also has a higher self discharge rate.

I buy lots of stuff from BG Micro.

formatting link
One battery holder, not necessarily the one you want:

formatting link

technomaNge

But, this is about batteries; those can't be shipped USPS.

Some of the solder-in cells are lithium primary cells, and others are lithium rechargeable cells (VL2330 is rechargeable and BR2330 is not). Make sure you aren't using an incompatible cell to do the replacement.

Sure they can. USPS even gives advice on how to ship battery operated devices...

formatting link

I always wonder why companies provide a link on an image to open up another window showing the same size image.

Jon

Since a welding hemlet protects your eyes from serious risk. Is it worth saving a few bucks by doing home repair? And what happens if the protection fails? Mass doses of UV? I'm not sure. But I'm concerned for your eye sight.

Provides UV and IR protection when off. It is the visible light that it shades against.

Jon

The glass in the hood provides the UV protection, with or without the electronics, the electronics just cuts the dazzle down to an accepable level. Hoods are expensive enough that refurb/repair is viable. If the filter were cracked, that would be an item for concern. But it's not.

Stan

Yup, you're right. Thinking of this pup:

formatting link
had a green laser that used it.

Stan

Join the Discussion

Have something to add? Share your thoughts — no account required.

Didn't find your answer?

Ask the community — no account required