Dear Anally retentive, I notice you've dropped all reference to "without a tray or neckstrap" Our club which has fliers of both persuasions had a test session, "without a tray or neckstrap" and ALL found it totally impractical. Without good support for the body of the transmitter, the movement of one stick caused a movement of the transmitter which was transferred to the other stick, not very good for precise control. Dave :^) p.s. I'm teaching my 12 year old autistic son to fly, your reluctance to accept others views is one of his traits, as is an inability to mix socially. I think you may need a check up!