Please accept my sincere condolences pertaining to your situation. I really
have a hard time understanding how anyone with so little experience and
involvement in this hobby could even be elected, much less keep a VP
position for so long. I have to tell you, when I first started reading the
posts about this guy, I thought there had to be two sides to the story, and
he couldn't be as bad as some of you guys make him out to be. Now I see that
it all falls into place and I find out that he is actually worse. How can
someone who doesn't even participate in this hobby expect to represent the
people who do? The fact that he doesn't even fly would be enough to
disqualify him. Are you sure that he doesn't have dirty blackmail photos?
That actually makes more sense. ;>)
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:14:06 -0800, "Bill" < email@example.com
(Remove the obvious)> wrote:
Perhaps now you can start thinking about the whys and wherefores of
some of the Executive Council actions in the past five or six years.
With McNeill as a "yes man", any other council member can depend on
positive support from McNeill if the agenda item has anything to do
with restricting development of model aviation, limiting the ability
of modelers to model, and so on.
Recent case in point : TAM 5. Maynard Hill's stunning achievement.
While beating the drum to limit model development, and in particular
with a view toward prohibiting autonomous models, Dave Brown gladly
"accepted" the position of "landing pilot" for the TAM 5 record
attempt. He bellied up to the bar and got his mug in the photos.
Immediately after the successful flight, Maynard Hill allowed as how
he would never have attempted the flight in the first place had Muncie
enacted the ban on autonomous models earlier than they actually did.
Here's the kicker - the TAM project did not involve the US and did not
involve the AMA officially. The flights departed from Canadian soil
and the one successful flight terminated on Irish soil.
Yet Maynard was apparently brow-beaten into submitting the record
certification paperwork through >AMA<.
Worse yet, TAM 5 itself is now property of AMA and resides in the
Why the hell is THAT ?
It was a _world_ record, so why isn't TAM 5 in the Smithsonian ?
Dave Brown and his cronies got their hooks into Maynard, and Maynard
is self-admittedly very tired and is now fully retired. He said as
much in the final STARS news letter, received by members this week.
Another thing to consider is what is AMA (Muncie, that is) doing to
protect our modeling interests and functionality from Washington ?
Brown is beating the drum in an effort to make AMA's version of
aeromodeling so innocuous that FAA and TSA won't even know it exists.
Rather than fight for our 'rights' and insist that it's not the models
that are the problem, it's the folks who would use models for
nefarious ends that _are_ the problem, Brown is leading the EC down
the path of "let's hide our activities and take such a low profile
that The Fed won't notice we're flying stuff that is not under their
As but one example of what the rest of the aeromodeling world is
doing, check out http://www.followme.ch/KurtMarti/LaFerte2003?&page=1
Not only is AMA no longer world leader in aeromodeling (if in fact it
ever was), by the time Brown and his venerable yes-man McNeill are
done we'll all be enjoying indoor rubber events and flying models out
doors will be a thing of the past.
Alas, it might well be the very _recent_ past, unless we manage to
elect some >leaders< in AMA.
The House Of Balsa Dust
Interesting, to say the least. TAM 5 really belongs in the Smithsonian. At
the rate dues are increasing, the plane restrictions may end up being a moot
Do they fly big planes in Europe? The first few photos I looked at, I
thought I was a full scale meet!
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:03:16 -0800, "Bill" < firstname.lastname@example.org
(Remove the obvious)> wrote:
The link only reflects one such annual event.
The European respondents herein can attest to the large models being
flown far better than I.
There are a couple of gents in the UK building true giants 'as we
One is a four-turbine C-17 with a truly monstrous wing span, nearing
flight test. There is at least one giant Vulcan on the tour circuit,
and the same guy who built/flies the Vulcan is setting out to do an
eight-turbine BUFF. Those projects are being documented in a couple
of the UK magazines.
With AMA's steadfastly insisting on models weighing less than 55
pounds, and a near-token "program" for models exceeding 55 pounds, I
think it's quite fair to say that AMA is not interested in furthering
model research with respect to large models. The 'leaders' in Muncie
appear to be intent on crawling under the nearest rock rather than
trying to assume any sort of leadership role.
Personally I don't much care about dues, being a Life Member.
OTHO, even at present rates, AMA dues amount to a mere pittance when
viewed against the costs of putting a decently-sized model in the air,
even if under 55 pounds.
The House Of Balsa Dust
Fred, I feel that for me the pros to the AMA do not outweigh the cons and
hence I am not a member. However, change might go a long way to encourage
me and others like me to join once again. With that said though, I must
caution you on making broad public assumptions as to what is or is not
See my inserts below.
How do you know this is the case? How do you know the EC is simply not
concerned with potential safety issues? Or perhaps much of this is a
reaction, legit or not, to the terror threat and Homeland Defense issues?
Have you asked them?
I think the autonomous flight thing was something the AMA had no choice on.
Much is being done in the UAV arena and among other things, what constitutes
a model versus a UAV is being defined at levels higher than the AMA. Be
thankful the Fed and the UAV industry is allowing the AMA participation in
the matter. As evidenced by the fact that the AMA enacted the restriction.
Next time you might want to ask the EC what was behind their actions.
His choice! So? But again, even though he started in Canada, didn't he
practice and develope the system in the US? Maryland to be exact? And had
the AMA enacted the restriction, then by definition the vehicle would no
longer have been a model but would have been a UAV instead. Politics and
semantics I know but a fact of life none the less.
How do you know he was brow-beaten? Did you ask him? Did you observe it
first hand? Or could it be that since the AMA is the official US
representative to the FAI in such matters??????????????
Last I checked, there is nothing in the Smithsonian related to models of any
kind other than static display. And that includes the new annex out by
Dulles Airport. Been there, seen it! Wouldn't have been nice had the AMA
contrubuted to the annex funds for a separate wing for flying models? Think
of the PR they could have gained being tied to the worlds most visitied
museum like that!
Said what? He's tired and retired? Or that DB and company got their hooks
into him? I'm not surprised he's tired. The man is getting on in years.
He's got to be one of the oldest living modelers around.
Again, have you asked them? Just this autonomous thing is to me one example
where they're working for our interests instead of restricting them. So you
can't fly R/C with an autopilot! Big deal!
Might beat being grounded! Ever think of that?
Again, how do you know? Or are these more of your assumptions? Have you
ever dealt with the Federal Government? Other than the IRS that is? Not
the easiest thing to work with and not smart enough IMHO to know the
difference between a hobby and a threat. Especially when they're seeing
UAV's being presented that are based on .60 size trainers, are smaller than
anything you or I fly to include the Park Flyers, are man portable and, by
the governments own admission, are being designed to carry weapons. Is it
any wonder the ignorant government worker panics at the sight of a whole
organization of potenital airial terrorits? We know we're not but, can we
guarantee that everyone in our ranks is here just for hobby interests?
Then I suggest you move to France and enjoy!
And perhaps invest in a large, open structure so you can fly indoors!
But either way, consider what you say. You make some broad accusations here
without evidence of having questioned all sides.
Lemme make sure I got your 'argument' right . . . .
YOU are warning ME about the possibility of being GROUNDED ?
After YOU called ME >paranoid< last November when I warned YOU to
watch out for federales bearing arms showing up on your private flying
Sure thing, bub.
I agree with a few other folks herein.
I conclude you just want to be argumentive, and it doesn't matter what
any of us actually know, conclude, or observe with respect to AMA, as
far as you're concerned, we don't know what we're talking about.
Go 'way, Kevin. Yer latest moniker has been outed.
The House Of Balsa Dust
This guy sounds like a monumental dickhead. Holy mackerel, if a quarter of
what is alleged here is true, something reeks in District V. What happens
when he is taken to task face to face?
relatively peaceful MAAC member
Before you can take him to task you must first _find_ him.
That's normally done by checking the antique shops in the vicinity of
a large-ish model event anywhere in the Southeastern US.
If you do succeed in finding the curmudgeon, and if he perceives you
have anything in mind except letting him take your 'snap', he scurries
away as fast as he can totter.
Been there, done that. T-shirt never did fit.
The House Of Balsa Dust
Sitting next to me in the bars ?
Always taking cheap shots even when you don't know anything about your
Never said there was anything wrong with antique shops, and you know
What's wrong is the way McNeill is reputed to have billed AMA for
trips to sanctioned events, has claimed to have BEEN at those
sanctioned events for a full day, yet several AMA members (including
the CD for at least one such event) have made public statements that
McNeill's claims are FALSE, that he spent less than an hour at the
event, snapped a few photos, and disappeared.
THAT is what's wrong with antiques, vis a vis McNeill.
Someone mentioned the word fraud, somewhere in this thread . . .
That was YOU, wasn't it ?
You recognize that things might not all be sweetness and light with
regard to McNeill's antique "thing", but folks down here who _HAVE
SEEN_ McNeills shenanigans can't make the same observation ?
Go 'way, Kevin. Yer latest moniker has already been "outed".
The House Of Balsa Dust
Does this guy or his wife sell antiques for a living?
I wonder if he travels on the AMA dime and then writes the travel as
his wife's antique sales business travel.
Otherwise, is he independently wealthy? In that case he could take
some tax breaks related to charity work.
I dunno 'bout his financial wherewithall, but the notion of traveling
on the 'AMA dime' and writing it off as an expense under another
heading certainly is an interesting point.
I doubt we'll ever get an explanation of that.
The House Of Balsa Dust
No one has been able to take him face to face. He ducks out and then writes
letters like this one. I have included the reply from Hall of Fame member
(Deceased) Jim Duckworth.
Note his "promises" in the letter. None of which ever materialized.
From the Dixie Aeromaster Inc. Newsletter
William W. Atkins
467 W. Seminole Rd.
Byron, GA 31008
by Jim McNeill, District V Vice President
1998 is an election year for the AMA District 5 Vice Presidency. I
currently hold the office. I am running for re-election.
A few weeks ago a Mr. Norman Deputy announced his intention to run also.
Curiously, he mailed all of my Associate Vice Presidents a package asking
them to nominate him for the office. Contained in the package was a
spoon-fed pre-worded nomination addressed to the Nominating Committee. Also
an envelope with a 32c stamp on it pre-addressed also. All the Associate VP
had to do was follow instructions. 1) sign it; 2) include his or her AMA
number; 3) mail it. I have 4 of these in front of me now. To contained the
same wording as the one appearing in your DIXIE AEROMASTERS NEWSLETTER now.
Only one nomination is necessary. This is all very new. Anyone experienced
in AMA matters knows the relationship between a Dist. VP and his Associate
Vice Presidents is generally based on trust and a long friendship. At first
blush I decided to stay out of it and let Deputy run his own business. Now,
however, he has changed his story and has become bolder. For me to remain
silent is an error.
In his pitch he says: "we as a group, do not communicate very well with
each other, and we as AMA members, feel that we are very far removed from
the District Vice President, Associate Vice Presidents, the AMA Executive
Council and the policies they make on our behalf." My response to this is:
RUBBISH. POLITICS. Politics at its lowest level. You, the member, are not
very far removed from me, and I am not very far removed from you. In each
issue of your Model Aviation magazine I have my address, my phone number, my
FAX number, my E-mail email@example.com, now my own WEB PAGE.
http://www.scott.net/~ama . I am starting a District Newsletter to all
editors, exchange, and contacts of the 318 clubs in my District.
This last go-around I have been your Dist. VP for 8.25 years. After each of
the previous 33 council meetings, I have immediately reported to you in your
magazine exactly what happened, the motions etc., and how and why I voted as
I did. Go back and check your old magazines. I am the only Council member
who has done so. I have stopped this practice, it is no longer necessary.
Today we have a fine new President and very experienced Executive Director,
so now Hdq'ers publishes in detail the minutes in the next issue. This was
not the practice when I take office in 1990. Some of you may recall the
national furor that erupted when I reported the proposed land purchase in
Visalia, Cal, using AMA dues money. Let me make my point in another way. For
several years I have given away AMA Rule Books, Booklets on Flying Sites,
videos for acquiring flying sites, videos for club entertainment at
meetings, books of "Roberts Rules of Order". I have mailed out free hundreds
of these items. Not one single time has any members complained I was slow in
mailing or to quote Deputy "very far removed." I am as close to you as your
telephone, or your FAX machine, or your computer, or your mail box.
Deputy's mention of a WEB PAGE for the District is excellent. I already
have one. I am scanning newsletters to show them on the WEB. Currently I
have 10 megs and more if I need them. My secret plan is to show 1 page for
each of the 318 clubs in my District that want me to. I will group them by
Mr. Deputy's credentials in his statement appear quite impressive. He says:
LEADER MEMBER SCIENTIFIC
LEADER MEMBER ADMINISTRATIVE
He is indeed a Leader Member but he has not told you how long he has been a
Leader Member. He became a Leader Member March 18, 1998. Last month. When
Hdq'ers received his first nomination from James Duckworth on March 17
(dated 3-10-98) he was not yet a Leader Member. He became one hours later.
Also he states: "...an avid model enthusiast for 10 years..." I'm sure he's
telling the truth here but he does not say how long he has been an AMA
member. He joined AMA on June 10, 1991. He has been an AMA member for 6
years and 10 months.
I have been an AMA member since its inception. In 1939 I was told to stop
painting NAA & my membership number on the right upper wings of my models
and henceforth put AMA & the number instead. The American Academy of Model
Aeronautics had dropped the American word off and was now Academy of Model
Aeronautics. I had been a member of NAA for years before then. I have been
on AMA's Board of Directors, its Council, for 25 of the last 27 years.
Longer than anyone else in AMA's history.
If Norman Deputy accesses to the office of Vice Presidency of District V I
hope he treats you better than he has treated me. Last Fall he called me on
the phone and requested I put an AMA booth in the then forthcoming
Southeastern Model Show at Perry, Georgia. I then got in my car and drove to
the Georgia Aircraft Modelers Assoc. club meeting in Warner Robins where
Deputy was the Club Secretary Treasurer. I offered an AMA booth etc., never
at ant time did he as Show Coordinator offer ANY pledge of assistance from
any members of his club to help AMA. He said they would all be busy. A very
distinguished old-time FFer offered to help but is in poor health. I sent
one of my Associate VPs to monitor the booth, drove over myself to see.
Whammo!!! SURPRISE!!! The AMA display wasn't in the main room at all where
all the action was taking place. It had been sullied off into a side
building. I didn't understand at the time but I understand now. As a direct
result of the manner in which Norman Deputy treated the Academy of Model
Aeronautics at his Perry Show a committee of 3 has been developed here in
Birmingham and are creating a Model Show beginning in Jan or Feb of next
year in the old Fairgrounds buildings. One of these halls is 3 times the
size of the Perry, Georgia one.
My grateful acknowledgements to your fine Club Editor Mr. Bill Atkins and
your fine Club President Mr. Jim Harris in allowing me this rebuttal.
copies; All of my Associate VPs.
From Tom Rhodes
After Reading the "Rebuttal" by Jim McNeil to Norm Deputy announcing and
campaining for Dist V VP I had to say a few things. Norm Deputy has been
nominated for AMA Dist V VP, He has announced he is running and solicited
support from the AVP's in his district. Put a web page with a campain
statement, and in general has started a clean campain for the AMA District V
VP. Norm is actively seeking the AMA District V VP position. Upon seeing
some compition Jim McNeil has made a personal attack against Norm. I find
it appalling that he would stoop to such petty negative politics. Jim was
also a little liberal with the facts in his "Rebuttal".
Jim Said - Not one single time has any members complained I was slow in
mailing or to quote Deputy "very far removed."
It took several people incuding myself over 6 months for him to even
consider doing anything with the internet. His web page has just now gone
up. I called him and sent him many letters over months to get him to say
what if anything he planned for District V on the internet. Several emails,
faxs, and phone calls to him went Ignored, and he even made dispariging
remarks about myself and others because we were pushing him for some kind of
action or at least his stance on the District V internet presence. It took
requests on other VP's to get Jim to respond. Jim will answer requests and
send info as long as it doesn't require him to think or make stand on an
issue. Otherwise he has and will ignore you in hopes that you will go away.
Some of you may remember the monthly letters to Jim I put on the District
VIII email list last year He was brought into the information age kicking
and screaming. He had actually dropped doing anything on the net untill Norm
's nomination for VP.
Norm may have just become a "Leader Member" but he's obviously a leader in
model aviation. Look at his resume at his web site. He's only been in AMA a
little more than 6 years. He's been active for that 6 years. The question
is does Jim have 30 years of experience or 1 year of experience 30 times?
Jim doesn't fly anymore. His only activity is AMA VP. That might be good
but he doesn't really do anything and if anyone does or says anthing
critical of any of actions or decisions he takes it as a personal attack.
Dissagree with him or question one of his decisions and he fears that you're
out for his job. Norm Deputy really is out for his job, so Jim is attacking
the man and stretching the facts on the communication issue. Jim is a nice
guy but he's not a leader, he doesn't campain for our District but appears
to look out for his position as an AMA VP and not look out for the AMA
members of his district. He's the consumate AMA politician holding his
position longer than anybody in AMA history.
I offered to help and publish and AMA District V web site with links to all
the clubs in the district. Put up Club Newsletters, and put up Jims notes
and information a year ago. I even got a IP to donate the server space for
the site. Jim didn't know what I was offering, and told me he didn't think
it was a good idea. He's changed his tune and it's now "Jim's Secret Plan"
..Tom Rhodes AMA531770 firstname.lastname@example.org
A District VP Wakes Up
Well I guess we all know now what it takes to wake up a District Vice
President. Just challenge their hold on the position. In my association
with AMA, and since I am not running I will not bother you with letter and
verse of how many years that is, this is the fastest action I have seen on
the part of any District V VP, regarding anything. Incidently where did Jim
McNeill get the information regarding the where, when etc of Norm Deputy's
association with AMA? I wonder if this information regarding McNeill's
"history" would be available to anyone. Who cares? Right now we need an
active administrator with a desire to become involved in the administration
of the hobby and one who can provide the membership with a positive forward
looking agenda. We already have an administrator who has sat on the
position currently for 8.25 (?) years, but who has resisted coming into the
current computer age, and who insists on pointing backwards to the things he
has done, but has no statement indicating what he is going to offer in the
future. Maybe that is a little hard, because Jim does indicate he has a
"secret plan" to put all newsletter front pages on his web site.
Several things in Jim's rebuttal require a response. I detected some
concernment in the rebuttal letter due to the fact Norm notified all 17 or
so of Jim's AVPs ( whose relationship is "based on trust and a long
friendship) of his intention to run for the office. What a better way to
start your association with the membership than to notify all the associates
of your intentions, and include a self addressed envelope for their
convenience. Jim explains it as "this is all very new." Bingo, perhaps Jim
just got his first clue as to a great way to service your constituency
"convenience." In the rebuttal Jim indicates that 4 of his AVPs forwarded
the info Norm sent them to him. This indicates the 4 did not desire to
nominate Norm. Jim needs to not worry about the four, but think of the
other 13 that may have some desires for a change in District V.
Jim goes off in the rebuttal about Norm's statement that "we do not
communicate very well with each other" as rubbish, and then indicates his
address on the Model Aviation District V page as his communication tool with
the membership. I'll let someone else determine which of the two statements
are "rubbish." Jim's web page did not exist several weeks ago when Norm
wrote his concerns regarding communication amongst AMA people. Norm has had
a web page up and running for about 2 years now and has been communicating
and interacting very well through this medium with club members, interested
modelers and others for these many years. Probably a very good indication
of what we can expect from him in years to come.
In the rebuttal letter Jim wimpers about hoping that Norm will treat "you
better than he has treated me," this in regard to the AMA display at the
Southeastern Model Show. This display was in my bailiwick at the show, an
Norm was very busy with many other duties. Norm made the initial contact
with AMA, was told that District V VP should handle it. Norm then made
contact with Jim, and all subsequent actions concerning the display were
made by me. After several calls by me to Jim, to an AVP etc, the display was
shipped to Norm's home address. Now as to the placement of the display, it
was not "sullied off into a side building," but placed in the Conference
Center, a multi-million dollar media building, used by the Agri-center
complex for conferences of all types. Along with the AMA display, the
building contained an IMAA display, Southern Scale Warbird, Senior Pattern,
and Peach State Quarter Scale displays. While this building did not garner
the traffic we hoped for, it was the first year for this arrangement and
understandably we will have more exposure for these displays in the future.
Now as to this business of "I then got in my car and drove to the GAMA
meeting" OK that is a true statement, but next comes "never at anytime did
he as show coordinator offer any pledge of assistance from any members of
his club." Wrong, at that stage of the planning contact had already been
made to have the AMA display, a lease paid on the building for the display
etc, all of which was accomplished by "members of this club." Further the
display was taken to the Agri-center by Norm, and I set the display up,
positioned it and directed the AVP who was to handle it to the area. Jim
was at the show, I spoke to him myself in the main building, and if he had
so much as mentioned any concerns about the display, I feel sure we could
have and would have brought our full attention to the problem. Several
times during the show I asked the AVP if Jim McNeill had come to the
display, and to the best of my knowledge Jim did not visit the display, or
even enter the "sullied off " building.
Now about the meeting with our club. Jim was certainly pleasant enough, but
through the evenings discourse, it became perfectly clear to me that Jim has
been at the job of District VP long enough, and we need some new thoughts
put to the problems of AMA. At one point I asked Jim "If there was any
possibility of AMA getting out of the insurance business," and his demeanor
immediately took on a defensive nature, and he seemed to bristle at the
idea. Answering that there was absolutely no possibility of AMA getting out
of the insurance business, adding that AMA had always had insurance. My
impression based on this and other responses that evening has led me to
believe that much of Jim's thinking and planning hinges on things in the
past. Perhaps that is not so bad until you figure that the current
communication age is changing so many aspects of our lives, and that we had
better have a capable, forward looking person in position to deal with
these changes...........Jim Duckworth
Whooaa there. McNeill flys or at least used to fly scale free flight.
Now I don't expect such a person to know every aspect of Radio
Control, nor does that disqualify him. But I would expect more effort
given to understand it.
email@example.com (Dr1Driver) wrote in message
Not only does McNeill NOT know R/C, he is as out of touch with ANYTHING in the
air as the Pope is with the Kama Sutra.
BTW, STILL no answer to my e-Mail to him concerning his latest joke column in
How about it, McNeill, you lurking in here, or do you get all your information
from C. O.?
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:16:39 -0800, "Bill" < firstname.lastname@example.org
(Remove the obvious)> wrote:
You read it correctly, and what you read is not in any way a
misrepresentation of known facts regarding McNeill.
He once flew free-flight models, thirty-odd years ago.
Red 'tricked' him into holding an r/c Tx hooked to a buddy cord once,
for less than a minute.
McNeill's hobby is getting elected so he can have the AMA travel funds
for his numerous trips around the district.
I'm one of the folks who have seen McNeill's act up close and
personal, and lemme tell ya it's a long way from impressive.
If you broach a technical subject McNeill scurries away as fast as he
can totter. He's a technological ignoramus.
Yet it is he who makes an alarming percentage of the motions and
seconds regarding technical issues, like limiting combat engine size,
limiting the on-board fuel for jets, things like that.
A technological ignoramus making technological decisions.
Any more questions about what's wrong with AMA ?
The House Of Balsa Dust
So have I, Fred. At the April 2003 Fun Fly event at the Spartanburg Sky
Knights in Spartanburg, SC, I witnessed his technique. He chatted amiably with
Harold Call, member of NCFFA (National Competition Fun Fly Association), an AMA
SIG. Harold was the designated CD for the NCFFA Nationals, held in Eutawville,
SC, last year. Actually, it was MRS. McNeill who introduced Jim to Harold.
Jim had NO idea what NCFFA is, much less what competition fun fly planes are.
He didn't even know the NCFFA Nats were scheduled in August 2003 IN HIS OWN
DISTRICT. Once again, ol' Jimbo didn't have a clue.
He sidled up to a select few, schmoozing all the way. Meantime, his wife was
circulating through the crowd, getting attendees to write down their names, so
the McNeills could be absolved of misspellings. Neither of them spoke to
me....in fact, my wife wrote down both our names at Mrs. McNeill's request.
Yet McNeill completely fabricated a conversation we allegedly had that Saturday
morning. When I confronted him via email, he called and attempted to smooth
over his lie. He revised the nonexistent conversation to another completely
fabricated version. McNeill altered the caption (of my picture) and STILL got
it wrong. After several phone calls and emails with me and my wife, he finally
just left my name off the caption! Oh, I think maybe there were 2 pictures of
planes in that M.A. District V report.
Interestingly, he never mentioned the winners in either class of the Fun Fly.
Come to think of it, he never does. Maybe that's because he waltzes in early
on the first day, breezes around long enough to be seen and be able to say "I
attended..." He then leaves for the closest antique shops. At this particular
event, the McNeills spent approximately an hour actually at the field.
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
I sincerely hope that the people in Division V chose a VP who will represent
their interests and promote the hobby. Having an elected person who is all
things to all people is, of course, impossible. Sounds like Jim McNeill has
surrounded himself with associate VP's who are looking out for his best
interests. That will be really hard to buck. When the guys who oppose
McNeill respond to sniping and nasty posts by his supporters, they are
playing right into the hands of those supporters. The average modeler in DV
reads these posts, thinks the opposition to McNeill is mean spirited and
picking on him. If he even bothers to return his ballot, he votes for the
"poor guy" who is being trashed on the Internet. As far as McNeill and his
guys are concerned, mission accomplished. Makes me appreciate the guy we
"...guy we have." ??????
Is that McNeil or the other candidate/s?
For those wishing to unseat JM, they have to get a real campaign going.
That is a h--l of a lot more than idle wishes in front of a keyboard. Hey, I
have the experiences to prove such! (;-()<
The average AMA member has absolutely no idea of all these forums, and AMA is
something one sends money to so the *club* will allow one to play with one's
toys at that place. The average modeler, er, ..uh,.. I mean AMA member, has no
idea what DVP means, much less who his is. Outside the AMA's "MA" the average
AMAer has no clue about other magazines and the only supplier is Tower Hobby.
To get the attention of those other than the voting 15% -- the incumbent's
groupies -- one will have to really get big time in the AMA campaign.
Regardless of some people's day-dreams, the computer is a very poor
communicating tool. This is very true when AMA will not release AMA Leader
Members' addresses to the Opponent while the incumbent has full access to ALL
files and records.
In addition, the opponent on the official nominee list is supposed to receive
copies of all AMA EC mailings to the incumbent. Hey, don't hold your breath for
that one. The mail box stays empty.
Now just who is nominating whom for the big seat this year, the AMA President?
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