Why can't anyone give me a serious answer on this subject? So far all I have gotten is"cute" answers. Can anyone out there tell me if they whether or not O.S. engines are being made in China? If not then what brands of engines are made in China?
Getting bent out of shape about it is really going to help... All that'll do is cause people to make up even "cuter" answers to push your buttons.
Most importantly, the people that frequent this newsgroup are not affiliated with O.S., and know no more about O.S.'s manufacturing facilities than you do. If you want a definitive answer, the best person to ask is a representative of O.S..
All I can say about the subject is that all my O.S. engines are clearly stamped "MADE IN JAPAN." In reality, all that means is final assembly is done in Japan. The parts could have been made ANYWHERE.
Now, as far as Chinese engines, most of the brands that are currently on the market are made either in Taiwan or mainland China. Thunder Tiger, Super Tigre, GMS, Magnum, Hobbico, Evolution... all Chinese. Any brand that you haven't heard of... Chinese.
You got a problem with Chinese-made engines or something? Is this some sort of political vendetta against the "evil Communist regime" or some such nonsense? Might make you feel better about yourself, but for every riteously indignant boycotter, there are ten other people that don't care and just buy the cheapest thing on the shelf.
If you read between the lines, you got an answer, no. Here's my take. I cannot tell you with absolute certainty that NO OS engines are made in China. However, I've never seen one. I can tell you that Magnum, GMS, ASP, Super Tigre, SC, CS, SY, Tower, and probably a few more that I have missed, are made in China. You may or may not be able to find these while you are in China. Your best bet is to find someone local to help in your search.
If you are lucky enough to go to one of the cities where some of these things are made, you may be able to go to the plant. I haven't tried this yet, but I might on my next trip. The plants I've found are not in the cities that a mainstream traveller would go. This means you will probably be buying from a hobby shop.
Prices in China for foreign made (imported to China) engines are no better than in the US, so if that's home for you, don't expect to come home with a bunch of OS, etc. Prices in China for engines made in China are better than you can get elsewhere, such as the US, IF you know how to bargain. You MUST know prices before you go there, and you MUST be prepared to start walking out if they are not giving you a reasonable price. Your best bet is to give them a low offer, see how loud and long they complain (and they will complain). If they don't give you a reasonable counter offer, start walking out. If they let you go, you were too low. If they call you back, you're in an acceptable ball park. If you're not willing to bargain like this, do everyone else a favor and don't shop in China. People willing to pay outrageous prices ruin things for the rest of us, the vendors start thinking they can cheat all the foreigners.
Oh, to get the best price, you must be prepared to pay in cash. Many places still don't take credit cards, and the ones who do tack on a percentage for credit card transactions. Travelers checks sometimes work at the shop, and if not the banks can handle them. Travellers checks actually get you a better exchange rate than cash.
Where on earth did this wild speculation come from? Perhaps you should lose the attitude and review Richard's original post. He was looking for information so he could do some shopping while he's in China.
Depending on your local labelling laws it would require them to be labelled, as is the case in my area. Suffice to say, I've yet to see any OS engine so labelled.
Even if it was, would that be justification not to buy one? As long as the quality and pricing remain constant it should have no impact on your buying preference (excluding those concerned about any perceived human rights abuses).
Yet another person (mis)reading between the lines. One more time, the OP is not trying to determine which engines to avoid, he's trying to learn which engines are made in China so he can do some shopping while he's there. Why do people assume that a simple request for information has some kind of hidden political agenda?
I see no such statement in the original post for this thread. I also see no other posts listed by Richard that would have helped to clear this up. Maybe google hasn't archived that thread yet. All I'm going by is the expressed attitude of the original poster in the original post, and the fact that he is so intent on finding out what engines are made in China.
Without the context of a shopping trip while in China, the only logical conclusion one could make from the information at hand was that he was looking to boycott Chinese-made engines.
In the years I've been browsing this newsgroup, I've seen many many many political diatribes about the loss of manufacturing jobs overseas, and I've NEVER run across anyone looking to get a deal on an engine while in China. Why would I logically conclude that the latter was the case?
I don't know what all the friction and confusion is about. I simply wanted to know if, while on vacation in China, I might be able to pick up and OS engine or two at a good price. If they are available there one would expect them to be cheaper than here in the usa. I have no political hidden agenda or whatever some may think. Chill out all!
You shouldn't need Google, just use your news reader to look at the posts you've marked read. On 3/6 Richard posted: "Is it true that OS engines are now made in China? If so are they available for sale in China or are they manufactured just for export. I will be traveling to China in May and am wondering if I could pick some engines cheaply. "
Even without his original post, perhaps he wanted to know if any OS engines were made in China. He said NOTHING about a boycott, or NOT wanting to buy Chinese made OS engines, people just fabricated that.
His goal was pretty clear. There was no political agenda, proposed boycott, or any of the other things some people have imagined. He just wanted some information.
Then you either misread it or missed it - he clearly stated he was going to visit China and was hoping to grab a bargain while there if available - he seemed keen to buy OS if it was made and/or available cheaply in China. No ifs, no buts, that is what I read.