OT Survey, Which Party Do You Think Will Be Better For Machine Shops?

The mantra is GROWTH. GNP has to increase and an easy way to do that is with immigration and jobs. Productivity helps but there are real limits to what can be done on that front. We'll have 500 million in America by 2050 and unless we adopt an immigration policy that is sane the growth will be heavily weighted in the wrong direction.

I don't. Anyone that hasn't been part of the work force wasn't counted then and isn't now. Twenty five or thirty percent unemployment is as bad as things have ever been and we are nearly two thirds of the way there today. The difference is in the social safety net we have now not the numbers and it's a net that's getting a lot of holes in it as the States run out of money.

I am only familiar with the California numbers but twenty percent - that's more than six million - of Californian's live at or below the federal poverty line. I think the number nationally is up to nearly fourteen percent at this point but it's hard to know. The Bush administration has changed their income calculation three times in the last six years in ways that overstate income at the low end of the scale. Even using the fed's numbers we have about 55 million folks not making it at all and the trend is up, not down, and has been for the last five or so years.

When people talk about widening income gaps, lower class mobility between the classes and less economic opportunity going forward or a lowered standard of living this is one of the important measures.

After his creepy ad attacking Obama for wanting to teach kids about avoiding being molested SlimeCain has no claim to any decency.

GWB ran on that same bullshit about being an outsider.

Countless? How many is that?

It only seems to happen when the US tries it. Why do you suppose that is?

Tip: the word you were searching for above is "girls."

Dan

Paglia has a habit of being brutally honest about the liberal agenda which is refreshing since she is a liberal.

Wes

Well, a veto can be overriden. It would require those that support that particular item being lined out to stand up to to be counted. Congress would still have ultimate authority on spending legislation.

The Supremes ruled 6-3 against, Justices Breyer, Scalia, and O'Connor dissented. Note, left, center right, and right.

Wes

Is anyone surprised it was proposed by republicans, and challenged by tax and spend Demonrats?

How about a line item veto and having it automatically passed back to both houses of Congress for approval/disapproval and then being passed back to the Pres for signing?

Given that it would turn into such a bargining cycle, that it would take years to pass a bill....which is a very good thing

we have now.

grade school

its closer to 30%, based on converstations with friends that work for ICE

You mean Obama the baby killer?