B WELL OUR MODEM DID NOT WRECK EVERY ONES PC

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:26:18 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
IBM was always of the belief that there was no PERSONAL computer market worth targeting, and was reluctant to release the IBM PC, the first "personal computer". That was in 1981, and that was also when IBM coined the term. Had they not made the micro-channel spec proprietary, they would likely still be a contender in the realm.
So whatever you call those older workstations, you cannot call them PCs.
Note that IBM uses the word PORTABLE. on their history page.
The page you provided.
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DarkMatter
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Certainly. THey were and still are International *BUSINESS* machines. Duh!
The IBM PC came from an "Independant Business Unit", which was all the rage in the late '70s to early '80s. The IBU's were outside IBM "law". The PC was a fluke. However, this doesn't change the fact that they built single-user (a.k.a. *PERSONAL*) computers before the "IBM PC". Note the progression of model numbers: 5100, 5110, 5120. The original PC was the 5150, and the XT the 5160, AT=5170.
Simply stated you're wrong once again. The 5100 was *personal* computer, whether it was named as such or not.
The term used has nothing to do with the function provided. The 5100 was a personal, albeit scientific computer.
Irrelevant (and hideously sophomoric) nonsense thrown in as an attempt to hide your ignorance.
You really try hard at being stupid, don't you.
Sure. Your point? The issue was *function*, not terminology.
Indeed. You deny they built desktop computers before the 5150. You're simply wrong, and as usual cannot admit you haven't a clue what you're talking about. The 5100 (and the 1130 a decade before) was in the path to desktop computers.
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Keith R. Williams
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:49:31 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
They were and still are called computer workstations.
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DarkMatter
Atually the 5100 wasn't called a "workstation" either. The term wasn't yet coined. It *was* a sing;e user scientific/engineering computer. No matter how hard you want to hide, you're wrong. It was a desktop computer designed for a single user. The 5150 acknowledged this heritage.
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Keith R. Williams
The heath and altair computers had programs entered with swithches when the ISC was already using floppy tape . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
By 1974 I was selling computers with the 8080 in them.
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BUSHBADEE
By around 1971 or 72 I had a ti52 which was the equivelent of the Brainiac and was designing transformers with it. I put the core size in, flux density and out came all the winding info.including the gauge wire. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
The isc 8080 was a personal desk computer and I was selling it around 1973 or 74. Full color on a 480 by 640 screen. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
Interesting note Keith, Hewlet Packard put out what they called an electronic calculator around 72 or 73. When you pluged in the equation to solve they built a one second delay into giving the answere so people would think it had take a few moments to come up with the answere.
Any 50 cent calculator will do as much or more now.
This week I bought a scientific calculator with all sorts of functions including hyperbolic and even bessel funtions, I believe for $1.59 .
I could hardly believe it so I bought two of them.
Got them at a dollar store.. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
As to AOL sucking that's bull shit. I just got back from my son's house who uses some IP and after waiting 10 minutes to get on and waiting another 10 to get my mail, I have come to appreciate being able to sign onto aol in 5 seconds, download my mail in another 5 seconds and get to my news groups like this one which I could not get to easily on his IP's version of the internet. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
Don in the 60's I had my own terminal at the RAND corporation which tied into their main fraim. In fact I think that was in the late 50's that I worked there. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
Wasn't the 8080 only an 8-bit CPU? TIA tbh
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Tim Heise
I prefer top posting also because then you do not have to scroll down to the bottom to see the new material and you can scan posts about twice as fast. But bunge hole does not realize that. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
Who the fuck elected him the policeman of the internet. He doesn't like my b either. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
I believe only one percent of the capability of the 8080 was ever used before they went on to newer types.
While assemblers do a fine job of assembling code, programs written in pure assembly language can be much tighter. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
Not to mention that those chips sell for as low as a couple bucks each. . . I DO NOT FOLLOW MANY OF THESE NEWS GROUPS To answere me address mail to snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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BUSHBADEE
Yes, but the coding was what was important.
Our cpu was about 2.8 megahertz.
We used a single character to represent a command. The Radio shack machine used 3 bits to represent a commend . It used a 8 or 10 megahertz Z80 but our machine ran better than 10 times as fast as the radio shack machine in basic.
If you knew anything about the basics of assemble language programing and how basic operated, you could get basic to work about as fast as assemble.
I wrote a number of programs, in basic where the calculations were completed before you could get you finger off the enter key. After that point it does not matter how fast the machine is.
I used a lot of peeks and pokes. Memory was mapped so you could enter inventory right into the proper place in memory and did not need variables to store the information.
A date took only two bytes.. The bytes were broken up into bits so that each bit had meaning. numbers with 7 digit precision could be stored in 3 bytes. I stored 400 parts with a 5 character part number from 26 vendors in just 8 k of memory.
By useing the location of the part number, in memory, as an additional peice of information you can store extra information beyond what you would expect from a given amount of memory.
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BUSHBADEE
On 06 Nov 2003 07:47:33 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.community (BUSHBADEE) Gave us:
I am not being a policeman, dipshit. I am telling you what is correct, and you are being too goddamned thick skulled to accept it, and conform to the norm.
You know, all those things one MUST conform to, in order to claim any knowledge of electronics, or basic professionalism.
Same rules apply here. If you are too goddamned stupid to get it on your own by having READ about usenet BEFORE you interlope your lame ass into it, then take your fellow posters' advice about the conventions, and move on. You don't piss and moan about how easy it is to read top posted replies.
You don't pick and choose what rules to follow. If one could, you'd be dead right now, because the rule I would choose not to follow would be the one that keeps you alive.
There was a time when the punishments for the things one did, kept one from doing most things considered "wrong".
If you retarded bastards were not permitted to post here, unless it was in the correct form, guess what your lame, wussy asses would be doing? Learning how to post correctly in usenet, and why.
Get a clue.
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DarkMatter
You are that emotionally disturbed because someone else cracks open their eggs at the other end? You have my pity.
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Brainy Ear
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:55:55 -0000, "Brainy Ear" Gave us:
You're an idiot. Not everyone has access to ALL of the posts, you retarded twit.The answer is that they
No. You top posting twits are the retarded usenet losers. Get a clue, boy.
Usenet is not a chat board, dipshit.
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DarkMatter

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