Bumping

They are! Have a 3KS on my door and a MCS in my commection, both the best locks I have ever seen...

Reply to
Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS
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Another reason that I never ever want to travel to the US, when it can be avoided. No pun intended, I just do not like the way how some rights are bent there...

Reply to
Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS

exactly, unfortunately.

--Shiva--

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me

LOL Key is getting smarter. He is deferring to more knowledgable "experts" than himself.

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Tim Mathews

You've all forgotten the most basic lock of all. The humble warded lock. Bumping has in many instances rendered the security provided by a warded lock equal to or greater than many pin tumblers.

Reply to
Tim Mathews

I'd think Ace keys could be bumped. Take a two handed motion, but they should be bumpable.

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

When I was in school "ex post facto" was "after the fact". It's in the law some where, you can't change the law after the act was committed. Make something that happened in the past illegal, and go after people.

For example, if people in Reno NV are legally gambling, you can't outlaw gambling and then go charge people who gambled in 2004.

The rest of the article is, therefore, suspect.

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

But filing down a warded lock key to make a skeleton key is pretty well in the same category as filing down a cylinder key to 9's to make a bump key.

In any case, cylinder locks are also warded locks by virtue of the key profiles, and even more interesting, large multi level masterkey systems often rely on these wards to differentiate the higher level masterkeys.

Reply to
peterwn

That is entirely reasonable, but the current administration seems to think it is not bound by UL law, the Constitution, or international laws.

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Bud--

Rather off even this topic - you may be interested in googling "failure" using "I'm feeling lucky".

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Bud--

yes, sometimes those are VERY interesting bits of weird important things --Shiva--

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me

It must be a trend. I said the same thing about the Clintons.

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

"ex post facto" does not mean before the fact it literally means "from something done afterward". "ex post facto" is a legal term for a law that applies retroactively. Ex post facto laws are specifically unconstitutional under Article 1, § 9 and Art. 1 § 10.

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Steve

Since when has any administration felt it had to abide by the constitution? Virtually every presidential executive order is a blantantly unconstitutional end run around the legislative process. What was the last presidential administration to issue no executive orders? Name the last congressional session where the interstate commerce clause wasn't stretched to the breaking point to regulate guns, drugs, tobacco, alcohol and numerous other things that are frankly none of the federal govenments business, the interstate commerce clause was clearly intended only to apply to the regulation of the commerce itself, for decades the federal government has used it to regulate anything and everything that ever traveled or could have traveled in interstate commerce.

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Steve

Aren't you in Germany? Don't they ban certain political parties and anything that's considered to be "racist" speach there? Sorry but the USA has a long way to go before it infringes feedoms anywhere near the degree that virtually every western european country already does.

Reply to
Steve

Not to mention the big german manufacturer of systems with several thousands of cylinders each, protecting telco or public transport infrastrucure - with 6 or 7 pin stacks per cylinder, the simpler the profile of a key the more important it is, and the GMK using the simplest profile with a bitting like 3435343 or 223334. One look at the GMK, and you can file down a blank within minutes to fit thousands of locks :-(

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Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS

Yes, they do, and I dislike this.

But in germany it is not enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time to receive death penalty, you do not have the rule "three little thefts -> prisoner for the rest of your life", you do not get locked into a hidden place with the key being thrown away because somebody thinks you _could_ be a terrorist.

Everything has its advantages and disadvantages - but I prefer the combination we have in germany :-)

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Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS

One certain manufacturer's grand masterkeys were almost always

0x9x0x and if you dismantled a cylinder with no key that gave 8 possibilities or even less if there was a potential MACS violation.
Reply to
peterwn

So what? He's still talking about rights being bent".....". The fact is our government (unfortunately) bends rights Germans don't even have. He also starts in in a later post about locking people away. If the German government had locked away those in the Hamburg cell there probably wouldn't have been a 9-11. If we really want to look deeply into the root causes of modern day terrorism and our responses to it we ultimately come to the creation of the modern day state of Isreal and the displacement of Palistinians which would never have happened if a certain European country had not committed wholesale genocide against European Jews. Perhaps instead of displacing Palistinians we should have just given Germany, which the allies conquered, in a war Germany started, and with it's ally Japan dragged us into, to the European Jews. Germany would be Israel, the Palistinians would be on their own lands instead of in refugee camps and Islamic terrorism against the US today would likely be virtually unknown. Germany only exists today in any shape or form because the USA mercifully allowed it to continue to exist. Not only that but we rebuilt much of it better than it was. Contrast the US treatment of Germans to the Soviet treatment of same. The USA is the only country in the history of the world that it's actually good to lose a war to.

Neither would almost anybody else which is why people will give their left you know what to get into the USA. Christ Cubans turn cars into boats to get over here.

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Steve

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