Well we'll just agree that he should fix it. That is the reason we have insurance. Nobodys perfect. I fell through a celling of this rich ladies house into her kitchen while in the attic in July installing an alarm one time. She looked up at me and said, "Hi There". Insurance fixed it no problem. Didn't have to worry about a thing. They handled it all while I did other things.
For what it's worth logically he should get paid for his service call or if not what he wasn't paid should be offset against the damage he did. However if it were me I might be inclined to comp them the whole thing and write it off as customer satisfaction.
That's actually easier to do than a lot of people think. One miss step is all it takes, especially while you're twisting your way around TV antennas and HVAC ducting etc. .
Well, I agree on that point. However, AFTER the damage has been done, he comped the price and the customer [present at the scene] agreed.
What if she DID give implicit signed (waiver) consent? Why would that change things? Because the agreement was before the damage instead of after? That would be optimum, but the agreement is still there.
He's entitled to compensation. Any compensation he relenquished should be applied against the damage. The customer did afterall expect to pay for his service so as long as they are not out anymore net than his charge would have been all is as it should be. The bottom line here is he screwed it up (badly and I dare say rather foolishly, once again what did he THINK would happen when he forced the door KNOWING the bolt was still engaged?) and needs to make it right.
Yes because the customer went into it knowing that damage was likely. In terms of practicality more importantly because it would be in writing. 5 will get you
10 that if it goes to court the customer will develop amnesia with regard to any agreement that was reached and he will get slapped with a judgement. They may or may not be able to collect it depending on his finances and how his assets and company are structured but it will be more trouble than it's worth. Taking care of what he screwed up is also just the right thing to do.
I did this once on one of my rentals. I was soldering some new pipe in the attic and I was laying on a piece of plywood spanning the joists. The house had been insulated with the blown in cellulose (yucch!) and I leaned a little to reach the flux and boom! A big chunk of sheetrock broke. I didn't fall but what a mess. Actually it was a good thing as now I could stand on the ladder and finish the plumbing.
I straight up passed out. It was close to 100 F outside, afternoon, high humidity as normal here on the gulf coast. Side attic type situation on the second floor, insulated deep, little ventilation, two story house, 16 foot celling off to the side. Freaked me out when I snapped out of it.
That is no time to go into an attic. That is the human equivalent to locking the dog in the car on a hot day.
That was a stupid move. Never again. It sure snuck up on me. I second I was fine and the next POW!
Sorry to hear that you passed out on the job. I've been in rough shape the last couple days, myself.
That happened years ago. Learned my lesson.
So basically you do not know what in the bloody hell you are doing and broke your poor customers door frame and would now like some sympathy for being the incompetent wanker you are. I do feel sorry for you, being such a bumbling idiot must me terrible.
After tearing up some peoples stuff some guy called:
What you woulda coulda shoulda done is be a garbage collector or something you can handle. You are a typical incompetent so called tradesman. The only people who deserve sympathy are your victims.
PS Do you even have a license? I know you don't.
"Joe Consumer" <Joe Consumer@Joe Consumer.net> trolled in message >
collector or something
tradesman.
well, you are a typical incompetent troll...
same thing can be said for you.
you don't know crap about what anyone has or doesn't have. "Do you even have a license?"
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