Youre welcome fugi

Oh, gracious. Don't tell him the secret handshake! If he knows the secret handshake, that means (by the honor code we all memorized) that we have to tell him everything, and honestly!

already know the secret handshake, when I meet an asshole locksmith I believe my fist goes to his eye and he goes down... something like that anyhow. I'll try it out sometime.

Someone being an "asshole" isn't enough to justify assault. Your attack, however, justifies self defense. Dumb reason to die.

I take it you didn't pick up on the dry humor there.

Even in TX the law does not outright justify deadly force against simple assault in a public place. Although there is a rather large loophole in TX deadly force law which might make successful prosecution difficult if he defendant knows what to and what not to say.

it depends on the assault. if you were say 'blinded by the blows' (no hugh grant jokes) then you can use lethal force, even if your attacker wasn't armed. also you can use lethal force if more than one armed person is attacking as it is 'disparity in numbers'. It's all the the CHL course that's 10 hours long that you have to take. however here in austin you'd probably be charged, more liberal. someplace like houston or dallas would see the sense in it. but that's not the point. humor, learn to appreciate it.

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!

Now you know the password. Use at your own risk.

Sorry; I didn't. :)

Another interesting loophole... If it takes place at night, all bets are off. You can, believe it or not, legally shoot someone for spraypainting grafitti on the side of your house. Why? Property defense is ALWAYS allowable, but is lethal force justified? Nighttime... can't SEE if they are armed so you are rightful in assuming they are.

no actually (in texas atleast) that falls under criminal mischief which is legal to use lethal force at night. another fine point is you can't whack someone for theift, just burglary or robbery. burglary is theift from a residence at night, and robbery involves a struggle over the property. car theift isn't in there. but wait! in the comission of grand theift auto, they're stealing what's inside the car as well. if it's at night it turns into burglary of a vehicle. it's great, here in texas you can shoot just about anyone for just about anything that pisses you off.

You babbling f****it I doubt he is going to go in there with the name fugiforumhacker. He will probably make up a f****it locksmith business name. I know. You never thought of that. Why would you? Youre a locksmith.

I'm in Texas... You started with "no" but confirmed what I was saying... Hehe. Was just stating WHY lethal force is legal at night.

Wouldn't have it any other way.

where in texas? I'm in austin.

you know I think I'm gonna register fugiforumhacker on there sometime and make inane and asinine posts for the hell of it. maybe later though. just to spite key' or whoever it is on here.

San Antonio (Spurs in 6!)

damn, you live in little mexico.

No. You're thinking of a little hell-hole I call Laredo.

Doesn't TX still have the "He Needed Killin' " defense?

In general I believe most states require you to extricate your self from a situation using the least amount of force necessary. However some still have language like "block, and counter with equal opposing force" or something to that effect. An intended attack to the face/neck area could certainly be interpreted as a deadly attack by some. Depending on the location of where you were when the attack took place, I am sure many situations would allow for broad interpretation of "fear for one's life" which would be the piece I think you are trying to prove for justification. I know a lot of lockies pack heat, especially those working bad neighborhoods at night :). Anyone ever have to make one of these decisions in real life? How did it go for you legally?

-- A

In TX you do have to have "fear for your life" to justify self-defense... So you can't shoot a 100 lbs., 4' tall guy if you are 6' tall and 250 lbs. and he came at you with a sharp sponge. You are allowed to counter an attack with "equal but opposite force". It's relative and you'll have to justify it to a jury of 12. However, at night you can't SEE the other guy and it is considered reasonable to ASSUME he is well armed.

With that said, most states ALSO have a "duty to flee" clause which means you STILL can't use lethal force if you were able to run/escape. Not so in Texas.