americans forced to go to china for jobs

"Out of work, seeking new land of opportunity"
"He's a veteran toolmaker and the former leader of a staff of 60 engineers.
He knows lean manufacturing, total quality management and other methods of producing things efficiently and well.
All in all, he has unusually rich manufacturing credentials that reach from shop floor to conceptual design.
And he can't find a job - here.
So he's going to try his luck halfway around the world, in a country that, as the United States once was, is driven by the idea of actually making things.
"Two years ago, if someone would have said this is happening . . . I would have laughed at them," he said. "I would have said, 'I would never go to China in a million years.' "
""I sent so many resumes out it got to be a joke," he said. "Three, four, five a day - as many as I could emotionally do."
"And that's just what he's doing. He and his family are visiting China now on what Lee calls an exploratory trip.
The idea that he might end up working in China is still just that - an idea. Lee isn't sure he would actually do it. Besides continuing to hunt for jobs here, he may have the opportunity to work on a manufacturing project in Europe."
"But the fact that someone with his background and expertise is even considering China while it seems all but impossible to land work here suggests to him the degree to which fundamental change is afoot.
"I am looking at China as the land of opportunity," he said. "Absolutely right. It is where I can provide my expertise. I think people would listen.""
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:09:57 -0000, "nick"

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" His name is Lee. He doesn't want his last name published because - although hundreds of his resumes have brought no results - he continues to explore job opportunities here and fears his story might jeopardize his chances. "
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Lets see how long it takes Fatso to realise for well over 20 years the
United States has been a service based economy. :)
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While it's true we are mainly a service economy, some 30% of our GNP is manufacturing, nearly as much as #2 and # 3 (Japan and Germany) put together. Bill Smith
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:09:57 +0000, nick wrote:

Something that bugs me is, do chinese use their cheapo stuff they sell in the West in their own shops, or do they save the profits to buy themselves nice stuff?
Mongke
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The "cheapo stuff they sell in the West" mostly bears names like Lennox, Fitz and Floyd, Black & Decker, RCA, Motorola, Magnavox, Chevrolete, Ford, Jaguar, Mattel, Hasbro and other mostly American famous brands. They are products designed by US companies, executed in China, then "imported" into the US for sale by US retailers. Many other US companies assemble China made parts into US brand products in US plants.
So, if the Chinese "use the cheapo stuff they sell in the West in their own shops" they are using goods manufactured to strict US company guidelines, with US companies having the right to refuse substandard goods.
Therefore, your question is moot.
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 01:20:53 +0000, Morton Davis wrote:

That much is true. However I was refering to the truly chinese, inner provinces made, no name, poorly manufactured stuff, like my recently acquired "Pro Power Craft" bench grinder, with a motor rated as 3/4 HP but actually looks like 1/20 HP. Chinese manufactured American brands I buy with good confidence.
Regards,
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Japanese products used to be pure garbage in the 50s. Now the Japanese stuff is the best and the Chinese and American stuff is the crap. Go figure.
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figure.
Go figure again. A lot of "Japanese stuff" is merely the Japanese fabricating products for US companies.
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It's the other way around, Mort, see the Japanese owned factories all over America for examples.
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Waiving the right to remain silent, "nick"

Many of the Japanese cars and other products are designed in the US.
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Jaguars are made in China?
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:00:08 -0000, "nick"

Don't you have another 6 years to pay off on your old rusty Mercedes? :)
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Lennox,
Ford,
Parts of Jaguars are made in China. Parts of many cars are.
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Which parts?
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Waiving the right to remain silent, "nick"

The parts which break.
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Thanks for saying for me, FUCKTARD <plonk>
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Another Angkor ID <plonked>
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 01:06:14 GMT, Dave Whitmarsh

Why so cranky tonight, Sable dearie? Can't bear the fact Mort knows you're a drunken, syphilis ridden old hag? :)
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:41:52 -0500, the renowned "mongke"

Production shops world-wide use tend to use good stuff, not the DIY crap that people here complain about. Lots of companies are selling good production machines to China in volume.
Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
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Waiving the right to remain silent, "mongke"

I've been to China. They cannot afford the stuff they make for us.
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