Amway

Actually..no its not. But they are not as common as they once were.

Gunner

"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves, but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post, listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02 worth."

It says a lot about the kind of people Rich hangs out with.

Perhaps, but it could be that he considers hypocrites like Gunner to be dishonest. That would literally be true.

Well done! Very well done!

Gunner

"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves, but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post, listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02 worth."

IIRC, I got into deep shit in the past for admitting things, and having people question my honesty. It was about retrieving forklifts from underwater, and making sure they were in gear so the drivers wouldn't lose their jobs. Got some pretty righteous answers from some perfect and righteous honest people. Glad I'm not that sick. I'm not perfect, just a little better than I was, and learning to ask forgiveness and not to judge others. IIRC, also, I don't recall ever claiming to be honest. Or perfect.

Steve

Ah, John. If we were all just honest, and perfect, like you, what a wonderful world this would be.

Steve

I have no more reason to believe anything you say, than Gunner. Your constant rants are irritating, and hard to read with all the typos. You come across as a very bitter old man with dozens of chips on your shoulders.

Being honest does not mean never lying. It means having values that prevent lying for ulterior purposes.

And this is really the key.

He still has my Milwaukee 9" grinder as well. So perhaps he isnt as honest and perfect as one would think...eh?

Gunner

"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves, but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post, listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02 worth."

"Gunner Asch" wrote

What's yer problem. The man said he'd pay you. He just didn't say when.

Steve ;'-)

Thank God a few people got my point, and not just entertainment from a public flogging.

Steve

His grinder is right where he left it. He can pick it up at his leisure and the only reason it is here at all is that he left it so I could pay ONE OF MY GUYS to do a job I'd already more than paid him in full , in advance and on his word that he'd finish up, to do. He also said he'd pick it up on one of his many trips through the area.

You guys are right about one thing though. I'm not perfect unless taking gunner at his word makes me a perfect fool. Hey, wait... I guess you ARE right.

His grinder is right where he left it. He can pick it up at his leisure and the only reason it is here at all is that he left it so I could pay ONE OF MY GUYS to do a job I'd already more than paid him in full , in advance and on his word that he'd finish up, to do. He also said he'd pick it up on one of his many trips through the area.

You guys are right about one thing though. I'm not perfect unless taking gunner at his word makes me a perfect fool. Hey, wait... I guess you ARE right.

Ya wannna post that again? I missed it the first time. And the second time.

Steve

Actually I didn't even want to post it once. Gunner humiliates himself enough. He doesn't need my help.

LMAO. Care to go for four?

So, Michael, why the personal hard-on for me?

Thanks, Rich

Pay me? It isnt for sale. I simply loaned it to him. No charge. And drove 80 miles to bring it to him.

Gunner

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Me too. I left a job unfinished? Which job would that have been? Oddly enough..I loaned it to him for knocking off the crud from a cast iron muliti drill press table. I cant remember if I sold the table to him, gave it to him or simply provided the grinder and wire cup wheel.

Shrug

But not finishing a job? Hardly.

Gunner

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