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Gunner - I think they are talking about a BOOTABLE CD-ROM Image. I've even heard of USB-drive versions of Linux. It lets you run Linux on a computer WITHOUT installing any software.

It's not really a bug, it's just that the standard Mac filesystem (HFS+) is not case sensitive. If you need case sensitivity, you have to format a partition using UFS or Case Sensitive HFS+. See

Robert

Ubuntu has a live-CD version that lets you do just that.

Yes. Ubuntu comes either as a Live CD, or an Installable version.

Gunner

"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed, the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line of defense." --Walter Williams

Thanks for that. I'll have to look into it further. So far this hasn't been an issue for me, but you never know...

I have used UFS for external Firewire drives.

PDW

According to Peter Wiley :

Hmm ... that looks interesting -- though I already have a livecd version of OpenBSD for Intel processors.

Thanks, DoN.

I'm unhappy because Google does not provide for other OS's.

The *proper* way to deal with this problem is to provide source code for generic unix, which can be downloaded, examined for security holes, and then compiled.

And the average third grader does not know (or care) enough to be worried. I know of at least one pair of small kids who have lost access to a particular sacrificial Windows box, because they could not resist clicking to download an "update" for their favorite game. It thoroughly infected the system, and they were then banished to using only disconnected systems for their games.

Enjoy, DoN.

According to Peter Wiley :

:-)

O.K. I'll have to look into that.

Thanks.

Thank you for confirming this. I finally got the fellow at the other end to do a sequence of steps which finally verified this in the last exchange of e-mails. And I wonder how long before it will be fixed -- or whether they consider the normally unix filesystem behavior broken, and think that they have "fixed" it?

Of course, it is not as bad as things used to be in MS-DOS, where you have created a bunch of files with 'x' in the name, with the expectation of cleaning them all up -- and discover that:

DEL *X*.*

is treated the same as:

DEL *.*

except that because it is not literally "*.*", it does not bother even saying "ARE YOU SURE" as it otherwise would. I was already using unix both at work and at home when I discovered that. I later discovered that COMMAND.COM takes the first '*', replaces it with a '?', and then fills out with '?' until the end of the field. So it never even *sees* the 'X' and the second '?'.

One of the things which I don't get while being retired. (And back when I was working, the toys were rather restricted, because I was working for the Government at that time.

Thanks, DoN.

According to Robert Kidd :

O.K. That explains what is wrong -- though *why* remains unclear. It is certainly not normal unix behavior.

And my friend has been having difficulty finding the commands used to format and partition a disk on that OS.

Thanks, DoN.

I didn;t know that. Sorry for the error. My apologies.

It's a holdover from the classic Mac OS. Complicating the problem is the fact that some Mac programs do not work when run from a case sensitive volume. For example, Keynote (version 1, at least) contains a hardcoded path that differs in case from the name on disk. For this reason, Apple doesn't support booting from a case sensitive volume.

It's in /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility, or diskutil on the command line.

Robert

(shrug) Ignorance, is easy to fix.

According to Robert Kidd :

Thanks -- I've sent this along to him.

Thanks much, DoN.

Thats pretty much how I lost the entire network twice in the last two years. Since then..the kid has moved out..and Ive firewalled the s*it out of everything..and most of the boxes connect through a Linux box running a proxy.

Gunner

"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed, the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line of defense." --Walter Williams

Dont appologize. I learn something new here every day. Its the name of the game. We stop learning....well..most here anyways..when they shovel dirt on our box.

btw..order the free disk sets from Ubuntu. Each set has one of each, and pass them out to your friends

Gunner, running Mepis on several boxes

"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed, the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line of defense." --Walter Williams

According to Robert Kidd :

It turns out that he knew of this -- but didn't know that it could be made to produce case-sensitive filesystems.

We had been looking through the man pages for programs named "format" or "disklabel" to allow this kind of operation.

Thanks again, DoN.

Wrong department, obviously :-) I work in the marine research area, anything less than $10K is small change when you spend millions every year. I dropped my last laptop onto a steel deck 2 days prior to sailing for an 8 week cruise. Bag zip broke. Whip out the Govt Visa card & buy another one, then clone all the s/ware across (the dropped one was still working, but who knew for how long). Nearly 2 years later, the dropped laptop is still working.

BTW the Mac Minis are nice little boxes. I pensioned off my venerable old IPX for one. The IPX is now a doorstop, but a respected doorstop. Somewhere there's a SPARC 2, and a 5. I still use an Ultra 2 and have a pensioned off Ultra 10 that's too good to part with but have no immediate use for.

PDW

According to Peter Wiley :

A R&D lab which was part of the Army. Lots of paperwork accounting for everything. :-)

Pretty good.

It is even a fairly reasonable size and shape to be a doorstop.

I'm using a couple of Ultra-2s, an ultra-1, several SS-5s, SS-10s, and one SS-20 at the moment, plus a backup web server on an Ultra-5 (pretty much the same as the Ultra-10, but smaller, and less expansion capability.

Enjoy, DoN.