The local gun club used to have an annual machine-gun shoot. Watching some of the participants, I became convinced that the government ought to do everything in their power to encourage the use of full-auto weapons by criminals. In many cases, the participant would carefully aim at a target, and then unload the whole 15-round magazine. The first shot might hit the target, none of the others would... Near as I could tell, they were being used as single-shot rifles with ammunition costing
15 times the price on the box (since most of them were using 15-round magazines).Is there any public library of G-codes
Jul 15, 2010
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The rapid second shot was intended to follow the first bullet into body armor. Generally the first round will shatter and stop..and leave that spot damaged. A round right on its heels will penetrate the now busted spot and into the target.
The AN-94 fires the second round so close to the heels of the first round..that they tend to make a single hole in the target.
Ive not heard any actual field data but in theory..it should work very well.
On the other hand..the data that I have is that the AN-94 is a pain in the ass to use for most conscript troops and is only used by the elite guys who work with it every day.
The designer had ONE good idea..that fast second round. The rest of the gun is considered to be a pain in the ass.
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch
The thing that a decent AR can do that the Mini 14 cant do..is shoot a group smaller than 3-5" at 100 meters. Or bigger.
Ive got a rare Mini-14..one that will shoot 5 in a 2" group at 100
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch
Maybe California doesn't want you liberating yourself?
If they each make them themselves, that's legal, federally. If YOU make them for them, that's considered manufacturing and incurrs the $100K fines and 10 years in the fed's crossbar hotel. Plus tax penalties, 11% Pitmann-Robertson Act tax on commercially manufactured guns. Uppers are hardly worth messing with, they're NOT the controlled component. Lowers were always a toss-up, financially, except for the unpapered aspect. Since dealer's price for a stripped AR-15 lower is down around $56 now, it's not really worth tooling up. The buffer tube tap costs at least twice that. They already know where I live, so the unpapered thing has little attraction. The Minis I've shot have been order of washtub at 100 yards, the AR makes a single hole group at that range, the attraction on my side. That and magazines only cost a third of a Mini's.
As far as AK receiver "G" codes, the current batch is all sheetmetal, you can bend them up in an HF press and people do. There's a whole subculture out there making legal semis from imported parts kits. Flats are available. No G codes needed with sheetmetal.
Stan
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:45:53 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote the following:
That's what it was when I was there (what, 3 years ago?) Effin' _PASS!_
'twas 84F with 19% hummerditty here today. Just gorgeous!
-- Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels, throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions, without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
"Almost completely." =/= Never needed.
"John R. Carroll" on Sat, 17 Jul 2010
18:18:03 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:Why?
Because it offends your sense of priority?
Or because you feel that others should not spend their money in a manner they see fit?
Do you feel that others should have the authority to say what you should be doing with your money>? Of course you do.
Ah, projecting your own concerns about inadequacy again.
Gunner Asch on Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:03:39 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
noises to run the
The movies have killed more people that way. "Spray and pray" only works in the movies.
Joe Pfeiffer on Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:03:41 -0600 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
There's a saying I've heard. Full auto is for those people who have too much money to be able to waste it all on drugs.
"Stormin Mormon" on Sun, 18 Jul
2010 15:33:20 -0400 typed >>>47 and 74 both.That does seem to be the consensus.
Shooting a free held gun from a helicopter (on a bungee - not a pole), yeah, belt fed at 600 RPM works well.
6000 RPM seems to work well too (miniguns rule!)But shooting on the ground, that's quite different. Especially if you have to carry all the ammo you'll ever have...
And Running Out Sucks...
But..its a DRY heat.
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch
post Vietnam
noises to run the
So how many people in the movies have died because they emptied their weapons?
In the new "Predator" movie some j****ff fires off several times his weight in 7.62mm but he always seems to have more.
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:43:52 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote the following:
Ours is a dry heat. Yours is an arid, frackin' OVEN.
My friends and I used to head to Lake Havasu on Labor, Independence, and Memorial Days. For the latter, it was always at least 120F, but the thermometer on a bar wall said 139 one year. That was a dry Hell. Ugh! To stay cool, we figured on one case of beer per day per person, and as many dips in the Colorado River as possible.
On July 8th, I happily celebrated my 25th anniversary away from that drunken life. And while I miss the boat 'n bikiniless babe trips, I don't tolerate that kind of heat now nearly as well as I did. You (and the Chemehuevi Indians) can have it, thanks. ;)
-- Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels, throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions, without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:48:37 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote the following:
Please don't diddle the Liberals (in public), Pete.
-- Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels, throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions, without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
It isn't responsible behavior.
They can be as stupid as they see fit. Then, absent any savings or other support of their own, they can eat their weapons when they need food and hide under them when they need shelter. See below.
They already do a lot of that without my liking it. Them's the rules.
Putting 25 percent or more of a years salary is somethng you do to provide for a home, not a toy you'll never have a real use for.
JC
(a) In what way is it not "responsible" and (b) who appointed you the arbiter of behavior?
Why would "they" need to do either?
And you're fine with spending huge amounts to get around the rules that should only be obeyed by the Great Unwashed.
And if the home is paid for then what?
The indians are all sitting in their air conditioned casinos racking in the cash.
Im out welding. Shrug
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch
Your opinion is noted with amused contempt.
So you dont believe the gentleman should be investing.
Fascinating
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch
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