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I find it extremely interesting that you could hold anyone but yourself in contempt Gunner. How's your "great cull" coming along?

What I believe is that until the risk that a person will end up broke and on the dole the way you are approaches zero that person has better things to spend money on than an expensive weapon that doesn't have much more utility than something affordable.

A better investment would be an education. That will do more to increase a persons chances of survival than any other single thing.

JC

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Do you mean an "education" like what one gets serving a tour in Iraq, or do you mean "schooling" like what one gets after one pays Yale a ludicrous amount of money?

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J. Clarke

Which one _usually_ results in a higher income at age 50?

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Spehro Pefhany

I never studied at Yale, myself, but I would imagine that studying at Yale gives one a lot of useful knowledge, and a lot of ways to be very successful. I would not bash it gratuitously.

A tour in Iraq also gives one knowledge, which could be more or less useful than Yale knowledge, depending on what one wants from life.

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Ignoramus21191

Odd..I was thinking the same about you.

It appears that all the indicators are still coming along nicely, unfortunately.

Its not something that I approve of. But..shrug..there is nothing I can do about it. And frankly ...it is needed.

Utility? Stocks and bonds have "utility"? Gold has "utility"? A $5000 weapon, if properly purchased, has as much utility as gold. Ive bought weapons for $1000 and sold them for $3500. That was poor investing????

Funny....and here I thought "investing" was a method to increase ones money. Im wrong?

Ill tell that to all the college grads that have just run through their

99th week of unemployment and are being evicted from their homes.

We both live in California..and unless you are utterly blind...you damned well know whats going on. And the third wave of such people is about to hit.

Shrug

Chill out boy...you might have an accident while pitching a snit.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch

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I talked with a couple people and learned something about Mini-14s a few years ago. You can get a lot better groups than you think... if you take about 20 minutes between shots (more on a hot day). Now for the guy who wants to go out to the range and blaze away that's pretty much useless information. However, for a hunter who got sold a bill of goods and now can't afford a good rifle that can be very useful information. It only takes one or two shots to make a kill. Successful kills are usually with the first shot.

One of the big problems with the Mini is the way its all bound up and sandwiched together. The barrel gets all twisted out of shape as it heats up. Rubbing against wood and plastic are part of it, but also how concentric the bore is to the outside, and even maybe inconsistencies in heat treating. If you shoot two or three rounds out of it in a minute the barrel will be start to get hotter and it will start to twist. If you let it cool for 15 to 20 minutes between shots it will have the same barrel distortion for every shot.

Now mini's are not tack drivers under the best of conditions, but with some care and patience you can use them to consistently drop coyotes out to about

150 yards. The round itself will drop them a lot further out, but even dialed in I wouldn't trust the gun to make consistent center of mass shots much further out that that and I hate to let an injured animal run away.

I didn't learn any of this stuff about minis until long after I unloaded mine for not much more than scrap prices, because that's all I thought of it. I swapped it for a computer hard drive.

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Bob La Londe

And what do you do with an "education" that one gets serving a tour in Iraq? Re-enlist?

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Ed Huntress

As of June, the nationwide unemployment rate for adult high school graduates, no college, was 10.0%. For college graduates, it was 4.5%:

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As usual, Gunner, you're talking through your hat.

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Gunner Asch on Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:18:27 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Well, it's not like you're doing something like blacksmithing, or casting bronze.

Knew a guy who was stationed in the So Pacific during the War. One of those island, where it was hot all the time. But that was okay, he worked inside. In the Bakery. Next to the ovens. Came home to Portland Oregon, which was having a 'heat wave'. All the way up into the 80's. People in their light weight summer suits & dresses - him in his Peacoat because it was >cold

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pyotr filipivich

"John R. Carroll" on Mon, 19 Jul 2010

05:50:35 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Right, it offends your sense of priority, that someone else should purchase something you don't think they should have, due to their socio-economic status. Gad, you remind me why sumptuary laws were passed in the 13th Century - jealousy of those who can afford the same things as the nobility. Your assumption is that they must have gone out and spent the rent money on a rifle. Maybe that is what you do, but you are not necessarily typical. The idea that they might have saved up for it just doesn't seem feasible to you, now does it? Anyone making less than 40,000 dollars a year must be part of the "unwashed poverty stricken masses", nicht wahr? So obviously, they would lack your perception and ability to budget for a big ticket item. Fnord, the one guy I know who has the big ticket rifle, spent his bonus check on it. Now I'm sure you would rather he had spent it on another car he doesn't need, or beer and smokes, or something else more in what you consider "fitting" for a farmer, but then you really don't like it when Those People(tm) act like they're your equal, eh no?

On this we both agree- -there is no law against people being stupid. Or at least there used to not be any such laws.

More assumptions on your part, but do feel free to continue to project your misunderstandings in public.

And you approve. And want the reading public to approve when you decide that others should not be allowed to have the freedom to make "stupid" choices. Do you feel that having others decide for you what you will purchase, or not purchase is a good thing, or not?

I see. Once again, you are projecting your own predilections on another, as well as your disapproval of their socioeconomic demographic. And you don't like it when people make their own choices as to what is important in their lives.

Do you feel the same way about luxury cars? High End Computers? First edition baseball cards?

Who cares what you feel, anyway?

tschus pyotr

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"J. Clarke" on Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:42:12

-0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

He doesn't believe that the unwashed masses can really do that. At least none of those he has read about, seem to be able to do so.

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"John R. Carroll" on Mon, 19 Jul 2010

07:31:23 -0700 typed >>>> Because it offends your sense of priority?

Hasn't started yet. God willing, it won't. But that's not the way to bet.

I see, so you don't approve of the Great Unwashed investing in means other than what you approve of. And it is obvious, that you feel that those who are not making as much money as you, obviously can't be doing "well" at all.

You're projecting again.. Your assumption is that if they are not rich, they must have no schooling. There is a big difference between education and schooling. (An expensive difference, too.) And far to many of those who mistake the later for the former, don't realize it, and do foolish things themselves.

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pyotr filipivich

Ask John about his Corvette......

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch

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"J. Clarke" on Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:07:25

-0400 typed >> Gunner Asch on Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:03:39 -0700

post Vietnam

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Whoosh. People tend to think that the movies reflect some kind of reality. Sheesh, only in the movies can a woman pick up the rifle, fire in the general direction and knock three Comanches off their charging horses. Which is the point: people think that what they see is "real" - not realizing that you rarely see the shooters reloading. Or that there is such a thing as "fire discipline." Or that you don't throw grenades with an underhand softball toss (aka"John Wayne style" as it was described to me.)

"And there is always shootout at the gold mine. So many bullets are fired, for the first six months all they pulled out was lead." I wish I could remember who write that - writing about the old Cowboy movies, re Tom Mix and the like.

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I've been told that use falls off as a proportion of the amount remaining, vs the expectation of replacement. That is, nothing shoots as much as a group of newbies who just got a full load out. But after a while, when they're down to "half", everybody suddenly starts to think about conserving ammo. I recall a story of a guy who got cut off behind enemy lines. Low on ammo he did the hero bit getting back, taking the enemy on "bare hand" - because he only had one round left. OTOH, I recall the war story of the post exercise return of ammunition, and the one soldier - ex Wehrmacht - turned in all but three rounds, saying: "I only saw three targets."

All that said - aimed fire is better than "spray fire", but sometimes, you just want them to keep their head down. It isn't the one with your name on it you have to worry about, it is the one marked "To Whom It May Concern".

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pyotr filipivich

Im in the process of assembling the raw materials to make one of these...

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And yes..one shot accuracy can be decent..but I didnt buy a miniture copy of the M14/M1A to be a single shot. Ive got a shitload of bolt action repeaters and a number of actual single shots for that. The 30 round magazine might be the tip off....

I think Ive owned at least 8 of them over the years..and this one is the most accurate..with a 2" 5 shot group at 100. Hell..all of my lever action Marlins will do half or better of that.

Coyotes are easy to kill with some of my arms, with little or no tissue damage. A 40gr XTP at 3900 FPS tends to not come out the other side, so the hide may be used as is...assuming I didnt take my usual headshot.

The Min-14 was NOT one of Rugers shining best efforts. In fact..it frankly has sucked Badly for most of its development period. The only good thing one can say about the Mini-14..is..that its reliable. It always goes Bang when you pull the trigger. Now where the bullet goes...thats always been a problem. Shrug

Its one of my many charector flaws. After being an 11B-4 in the service...I could care less what a rifle looks like..as long as it shoots well..and accurately. Living in the desert for 30 yrs, where "close shots" tend to be anything under 200 meters.. and medium distance goes out to 600....I rather require arms that will do better than 2" groups at 100.

"Center of Mass" with a rifle is on my list..but not really high. For that..handguns meet the bill. And Ive been a handgun Metallic Sillouette shooter for many years....so I regularly shoot handguns out to 200 meters..or farther.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch

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I really need to find some sort of Leathers that are mesh....might make the sweat evaporate better.....

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch

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Gunner Asch

Plural. My entire point from the beginning was that you can buy just about anything you want if you can afford the price. You guys were all saying that this stuff justr wasn't avaliable. It is and it's expensive and I'm not particularly offended that this is the case.

In the absence of big piles of disposable income, there are weapons readily at hand cheaply that will do the job. What I'm concluding is that you and your pal don't care as much about utility as you do showing off.

JC

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John R. Carroll

Ignoramus21191 on Mon, 19 Jul

2010 12:18:22 -0500 typed >>>Do you mean an "education" like what one gets serving a tour in Iraq, or

Fnord.

Harold MacMillain, former PM of Great Britain, said that when he entered Oxford, the Dean told the new boys, that nothing much that they would learn there, would be of much use to them in later life, save this: that if they applied themselves, they might learn how to detect when a man is talking rot. Which, Mr MacMillain observed, is the true use of a university education.

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pyotr filipivich

Expertly said!

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch

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